La Brexit è stata il “più grande disastro della politica britannica dalla seconda guerra mondiale”, dice Lord Patten ad Andrew Marr
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/brexit-biggest-disaster-british-policy-since-second-world-war-marr-lord-patten/
di tylerthe-theatre
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Followed by the choice of the worst Prime Minister, especially during the time of a pandemic.
I voted remain but it’s been 8 years.
I’d not mind but those people stopped talking about 2008 after 5mins & as impactful as Brexit was I still think 2008 was a bigger deal.
It’s weird, like all of our economic woes are about Brexit & not the thing that broke the economy long before the vote was called.
UK should rejoin EFTA – economic benefits without the political intergration.
I’m sure it will go down as one of the biggest self-inflicted fuck-ups of all time. I’d be interested to see how the history books deal with it in years to come. It’d be funny if it wasn’t so tragic.
Austerity was/is worse.
Its just rich people didn’t get badly effected from austerity but they do have inconvenience from Brexit, so more of the high and mighty complain about Brexit (which was also stupid).
I commented this elsewhere and it’s apt here too.
> > Since late July 2022, the share of people who regret Brexit in these surveys has consistently been above 50 percent. The fall in support mirrors the government’s sinking approval ratings, especially since the ruling Conservative Party, along with former Prime Minister Boris Johnson, are heavily associated with Brexit and the Leave vote. Despite there being a clear majority of voters who now regret Brexit, there is as yet no particular future relationship with the EU that has overwhelming support. As of late 2023, 31 percent of Britons wanted to rejoin the EU, while 30 percent merely wanted to improve trade relations and not rejoin either the EU or the single market.
~ [Source](https://www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/#:~:text=Since%20late%20July%202022%2C%20the,consistently%20been%20above%2050%20percent.)
The next 5-10 years will put a spotlight on the extreme divisions within the EU and the bloc will need to reimagine itself to survive. Yes, Britain has not benefitted in the short-mid term from leaving the union but it will have a massive head start on untangling itself and reforming its international presence which will help in the long run.
We are no longer a strong economy with a tier 1 military and we must refocus on our international trade and domestic policies to help reshape our national identity, military, institutions, education and healthcare. This cannot be done whilst being beholden to EU law.
With all respect to Lord Patten, he is a man of great experience and standing but he is far removed from the realities of our population and his experience is that of a different age, not the one we’re in now.
There is still a bunch of ex bankers manofthepeople types who think the job is only half done.
Still desperate to take their country back……..
To the 18th century.
Because cunts.
Sometimes I wonder the point of these interviews, considering none of them have an original thought.
I’ll never forget Chamberlain’s ominous words on returning from his talks with Adolf Hitler in 1939… “We’re going to do the Second World War. It’s going to be great, trust me.”
I’d say Blair going to war over ‘WMDs’ is probably biggest disaster since the second world war. Also it was a public vote. Suck it up buttercups
The implementation of Brexit was the biggest mistake since WW2.
As usual the remoaners trot out the old “brexiteers are thick” meme. They are usually older, have more history, and are a little more experience.
Back in 1975, I voted to join the common market. I didn’t have, nor do I do now, have a problem with a common market.
What screwed the job was Major catapulting us into a ‘United States of Europe’ in the mid 90s
I waited patiently for another referendum – it didn’t happen. Because Major knew the population wouldn’t agree to the loss of sovereignty.
That festered until 2016 when we got the chance to untie ourselves from the left/lib-dem/green/WEF hegemony that is Brussels.
Since then
1) remoaners have don’t absolutely everything possible to put a spanner in the works.
2) The current government have made a breakfast of leaving.
Point is, we still don’t have Brexit, and probably won’t until Reform gets into power.
It’s weird how the Conservative mps from 30 years ago seem so much more reasonable and pragmatic than the current mob. The party seems to have undergone a major shift to the right in the last decade.
Correction, calling a referendum of a matter of national significance is a moronic idea. Lord Cameron.
Remember when Tories could also be decent people? Patten is from that era.
this sub is literally never going to get over the fact that joining the EU and allowing vast numbers of people from lower-income countries to flood the labour market & ceding regulatory power to pro-business neoliberals in europe was a deeply unpopular decision amongst the working class of this country.
no amount of trotting out capitalist elites is going to deny that fact, i’m afraid!
voted remain btw