Also, I think the fact that she (or people that support her) keeps trying needs to be dealt with. There needs to be a final, unappealable solution to the matter.
Ok-Standard3816 on
They are making her the poster child on “what you must never do” in UK. There is no way she is coming back here again.
MrScaryEgg on
I still can’t really understand what the argument for stripping her of her citizenship was in the first place.
Surely, if she’s a threat to national security then she should be brought back to the UK to stand trail, not just left to her own devices in war torn Syria.
bhhhhhhhtyc on
Turns out the strategy of ditching the Islamic garb and wearing Western clothes to gain sympathy from middle class midwits isn’t working out all too well. My heart bleeds… like the dead Yazidi women and children she has no regrets over.
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BananaFeastingApe on
If this was a white male Nazi, no one would give a toss.
It’s only her gender and to a lesser extent her race that has made this such a cause celebre
Possible-Pin-8280 on
People need to stop with their “slippery slope” arguments, they’re BS. Unless you become a member of ISIS you aren’t going to be in her position so shush up.
Normal-Pen3259 on
My question is why isn’t she fighting the Bangladeshi authorities over her citizenship considering it was them who made her stateless… Oh wait it’s because they will execute her because she was part of IS. Imagine my shock /s
Willing_Variation872 on
Personally think there should be an investigation on exactly who is funding this and where their money is coming from, it smacks of continual destabilisation tactics from our “not” friends in the east.
Yoraffe on
If the UK government is really serious about tackling Islamic Grooming of young children and women into an extremist organisation be it in the UK or abroad (and there are numerous jobs within Government trying to tackle this in education and schools) why aren’t they at least trying to make use of her?
Young women and children are constantly fed misinformation and when they are groomed to go to whatever country it is to serve, they are treated exactly how you would expect out there. They are fed lies and a dream when it isn’t true. Let’s uncover that and get it out there more. Get into these cults by disproving them.
You have someone who has literally been in that situation, been groomed, found out the truth and wants to spread the truth out to those in vulnerable situations like herself. When I was 15 I would not have gotten onto a flight unless brainwashed. Why aren’t we realising this? Target those who brainwash, not the victims.
Get her back here, sure, charge her or imprison her or whatever needs to happen, but get her to schools in affluent Muslim areas of the country where they are worried about radicalism and it’s teachings and get her talking to students. Get her in assemblies, get children to write essays on the effects of religion (or extremist parts of that) and actually use her as an education tool.
If you want to come back to your home country then fine, but at a cost – being punished for your crimes but with the understanding that education is everything. Use her as a pawn for this. By banishing her we are just feeding into the extremism argument, that the UK is an enemy and we do not care for Muslims etc. We all know we are a multicultural society and we give opportunity, so lean on that.
Show them that being radicalised is terrible BUT that there is still punishment for doing what Begum did. She could probably provide intelligence towards places of grooming and key names of people who still try to groom with radicalism in this country and online right now.
Why aren’t we using her?
Ovitron on
Her losing the citizenship is not enough. There are so many others living in the UK, claiming benefits and promoting hate.
We need an active, working system of deportations that is not governed by ‘guilt and race’ cards. We’ve had our 7/7 and many, many other instances of how deadly these forces can be. It’s time to learn and apply.
SuomiBob on
Some lovely, balanced, well considered opinions in this thread.
Dangerous_Log_8735 on
Mad that we let people join the IDF without revoking citizenship too
PowerfulFuture1562 on
Good, it’s going to take more than a baseball cap and some denim to convince me that she’s changed and deserves her citizenship back
seeksadvic3 on
Jesus. How many stages and appeals are there. This should have concluded years ago.
Remikov on
The comments here are rabid. Shamima Begum is an English national and a victim of grooming. This is a racist abuse of power… prove me wrong
ComadoreJackSparrow on
She made her bed, and now she can lie in it. Preferably a rickety cot in a godforsaken desert nowhere near this country.
Exact-Substance5559 on
I don’t understand it. Shamima is a radicalised terrorist. She directly is shown to have supported the violence and genocide against the Yazidi people by ISIS.
I don’t see why any of this should have led to her losing her citizenship. It is better for everyone that she returns to Britain *so she can be properly tried and brought to justice for her crimes*.
permabanispointless on
People who argue that she was groomed and a kid dont know weve decided that the criminal age of responsibility in this country depends on crime committed.
We put 2 10 year olds away for murder.
rolanddeschain316 on
Enough oxygen and copy has been wasted on this creature. There’s obviously intel that the public aren’t privy to which is pretty dangerous.
BastCity on
Remember, folks:
White kids – groomed and unable to know better.
Brown kids – terrorists who make an informed and conscious decision.
UnknownVillian__ on
Who cares ? She didn’t want to be English not long ago
That_Painter_Guy on
Good, hopefully she’ll never get her citizenship back.
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Good. What’s the problem?
Also, I think the fact that she (or people that support her) keeps trying needs to be dealt with. There needs to be a final, unappealable solution to the matter.
They are making her the poster child on “what you must never do” in UK. There is no way she is coming back here again.
I still can’t really understand what the argument for stripping her of her citizenship was in the first place.
Surely, if she’s a threat to national security then she should be brought back to the UK to stand trail, not just left to her own devices in war torn Syria.
Turns out the strategy of ditching the Islamic garb and wearing Western clothes to gain sympathy from middle class midwits isn’t working out all too well. My heart bleeds… like the dead Yazidi women and children she has no regrets over.
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If this was a white male Nazi, no one would give a toss.
It’s only her gender and to a lesser extent her race that has made this such a cause celebre
People need to stop with their “slippery slope” arguments, they’re BS. Unless you become a member of ISIS you aren’t going to be in her position so shush up.
My question is why isn’t she fighting the Bangladeshi authorities over her citizenship considering it was them who made her stateless… Oh wait it’s because they will execute her because she was part of IS. Imagine my shock /s
Personally think there should be an investigation on exactly who is funding this and where their money is coming from, it smacks of continual destabilisation tactics from our “not” friends in the east.
If the UK government is really serious about tackling Islamic Grooming of young children and women into an extremist organisation be it in the UK or abroad (and there are numerous jobs within Government trying to tackle this in education and schools) why aren’t they at least trying to make use of her?
Young women and children are constantly fed misinformation and when they are groomed to go to whatever country it is to serve, they are treated exactly how you would expect out there. They are fed lies and a dream when it isn’t true. Let’s uncover that and get it out there more. Get into these cults by disproving them.
You have someone who has literally been in that situation, been groomed, found out the truth and wants to spread the truth out to those in vulnerable situations like herself. When I was 15 I would not have gotten onto a flight unless brainwashed. Why aren’t we realising this? Target those who brainwash, not the victims.
Get her back here, sure, charge her or imprison her or whatever needs to happen, but get her to schools in affluent Muslim areas of the country where they are worried about radicalism and it’s teachings and get her talking to students. Get her in assemblies, get children to write essays on the effects of religion (or extremist parts of that) and actually use her as an education tool.
If you want to come back to your home country then fine, but at a cost – being punished for your crimes but with the understanding that education is everything. Use her as a pawn for this. By banishing her we are just feeding into the extremism argument, that the UK is an enemy and we do not care for Muslims etc. We all know we are a multicultural society and we give opportunity, so lean on that.
Show them that being radicalised is terrible BUT that there is still punishment for doing what Begum did. She could probably provide intelligence towards places of grooming and key names of people who still try to groom with radicalism in this country and online right now.
Why aren’t we using her?
Her losing the citizenship is not enough. There are so many others living in the UK, claiming benefits and promoting hate.
We need an active, working system of deportations that is not governed by ‘guilt and race’ cards. We’ve had our 7/7 and many, many other instances of how deadly these forces can be. It’s time to learn and apply.
Some lovely, balanced, well considered opinions in this thread.
Mad that we let people join the IDF without revoking citizenship too
Good, it’s going to take more than a baseball cap and some denim to convince me that she’s changed and deserves her citizenship back
Jesus. How many stages and appeals are there. This should have concluded years ago.
The comments here are rabid. Shamima Begum is an English national and a victim of grooming. This is a racist abuse of power… prove me wrong
She made her bed, and now she can lie in it. Preferably a rickety cot in a godforsaken desert nowhere near this country.
I don’t understand it. Shamima is a radicalised terrorist. She directly is shown to have supported the violence and genocide against the Yazidi people by ISIS.
I don’t see why any of this should have led to her losing her citizenship. It is better for everyone that she returns to Britain *so she can be properly tried and brought to justice for her crimes*.
People who argue that she was groomed and a kid dont know weve decided that the criminal age of responsibility in this country depends on crime committed.
We put 2 10 year olds away for murder.
Enough oxygen and copy has been wasted on this creature. There’s obviously intel that the public aren’t privy to which is pretty dangerous.
Remember, folks:
White kids – groomed and unable to know better.
Brown kids – terrorists who make an informed and conscious decision.
Who cares ? She didn’t want to be English not long ago
Good, hopefully she’ll never get her citizenship back.