Ci sono stati molti tentativi di normalizzare le relazioni tra due paesi, che sono tutti falliti. Cosa pensano gli armeni a riguardo? Cosa pensi che Armenia e Turchia dovrebbero fare per superare i problemi e creare una relazione pacifica, e i confini dovrebbero aprirsi?
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di DanceWithMacaw
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I will believe it when I see it
It is obvious that Turkey has learned absolutely nothing and seeks to compromise on nothing. It simply wants Armenia to kneel. There has been no acknowledgment of genocide, let alone an apology. The same rampant anti-Armenian sentiment remains prevalent across Turkish society. And now, with the fall of Artsakh, Turkey gets to use Azerbaijan as its attack dog, snapping at Armenia’s eastern borders as a means of intimidation.
For years, well before the 2020 War and Pashinyan, Armenia consistently advanced the idea of normalization without preconditions, which was repeatedly rejected by Turkey, with added pressure from Azerbaijan. Now, even with the conditions *they* imposed gone as of September last year, they still shift goalposts and make more demands. Even the fucking airspace gets closed off. That is one aspect of their foreign policy and their collective mentality that will never change. It is never enough. There are never compromises.
There is nothing normal about this “normalization”. It is done at gunpoint. It is the victim of a violent crime being told by their attacker to forget what happened lest they want their neck broken too.
We are told it is us who are the problem. Armenia and Armenians, both inside the country and out, need to change. Our memories of death and loss are false. We, the ones whose regional population and heritage was obliterated in the space of a couple of decades, are the terrorists who deserved it. The land on which we barely made a sovereign state for ourselves is stolen. Our monuments are fake or never existed. Our constitution is wrong.
If Turkey truly wanted real, dignified peace with Armenia and open borders, it would acknowledge the genocide it has so poorly covered up (doesn’t really work when you spend half the time glorifying it) – negotiate some sort of financial compensation (just as Germany compensated Israel, just as Americans compensated (albeit meagrely) Native Americans) – agree to form joint working groups to restore the countless Armenian heritage sites in eastern Turkey which have been decimated, most obviously Ani – and then, when the general mentality of citizens on both sides has adjusted to the change, open the border.
But – and I can’t stress this enough – *Each and every Turkish government since Ataturk and the majority of Turks don’t want that.* The government would much rather steamroll Armenia with Azerbaijan and forget Armenia was ever there – and if the geopolitical conditions allowed for it, I have absolutely no doubt that they would, to rapturous applause from the vast majority of Turks.
I have a couple Turkish friends even more liberal than me but when i brought up armenia i feelt like i was in the 1930s for a second a lot has to change in turkey fore normalization to occur and i think that both islamist and kemalist agree on hating armenia so i don’t have hopes for it.
The resolution of the Armenian question will bring about the normalization of the two countries.
In all honesty, Armenia as a piss-poor and landlocked country would benefit from said normalization way more than Turkey would. In other words Armenia doesn’t have much to offer in return. Plus Turkey already has enough on its plate and the normalization of relations with Armenia isn’t even in the top 50 when it comes to things that need to be “rectified”. Not to mention Turks don’t really want it, or even care about it. So I don’t see the status quo being challenged in the short or medium term.
Never! Until they gives us our land apologize and give us conpensation