>**”A 96-year-old has been given a suspended prison sentence after pleading guilty to causing the death of a woman by dangerous driving.**”
wkavinsky on
Yup, if you want to kill someone, use a car.
You’ll only get 18 months for it. (Suspended in this case because a 96 year old doesn’t have any business in prison)
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Accurate_Prompt_8800 on
I think over 70s need to do driving tests every 5-10 years. And maybe after 75/80 they need to say every 2-3 years. The law needs to be changed. I just don’t think this woman should have been on the road in the first place, the test would have made sure of it.
Edit: as a qualified driving instructor myself I know that there’s a massive backlog of tests since the pandemic (cancelled tests and staffing constraints), also given how long legislation such as this can take to pass feasibility is low for the time being.
Goodspheed on
Ah yes. Yet another instance of some batty old twat killing someone and getting away with it. Nothing will change either.
SallySpaghetti on
Yeah. My first thought seeing this is ‘Should a 96 year old be driving in the first place?’
teagoo42 on
I’m not reading anything about a driving ban, whats to stop her from panicking and killing someone again?
test_test_1_2_3 on
My mum and her sister had to be the ones to stop my gran from driving. She was 80 and playing bumper cars getting out of the car park at the place she was living.
She fought them on it and it created some issues with their relationship because my gran felt she was having her independence unfairly taken away.
There should absolutely be mandatory retesting every few years once people hit a certain age. My gran was going to kill someone and her kids very nearly didn’t follow through with making her stop due to the amount of bad blood it was creating.
Naive-Archer-9223 on
Mental you can pass your test at 18 and that’s it for the rest of your life
HonestlyKindaOverIt on
So, she hasn’t really been punished then? Someone has lost a family member and she’s just gotten away with it.
TheMemo on
I live in an area with a lot of old people. Little old ladies struggling to control massive SUVs, barely able tonsee over the steering wheel. Saw an old guy who probably had dementia plough his Land Rover into the tables outside a Costa Coffee, almost killing a bunch of people. Two guys had to get into the vehicle and wrestle him out of the car as he panic-drove along the pavement.
In the case of dementia, it is up to the driver to report a diagnosis to the DVLA. It would make more sense if doctors were required to report to the DVLA.
Drivers over 70 should have to get yearly attention and memory tests from their doctor, and take bi-annual driving tests.
It won’t happen though, because enough people equate cars with freedom that being denied driving is considered cruel, even if it means innocent pedestrians die unnecessarily.
Great marketing job, car companies, you planet-destroying, murderous, ghoulish cunts.
YvanehtNioj69 on
Very sad for the person who died of course sad for the woman too though doing this in what’s probably the last few years of her life. There should probably be a ban on drivers over 87 or something.
not_who_you_think_99 on
Will she get a lifetime driving ban? Or not even in a case like this are they given?
thedeerhunter270 on
As a cyclist I worry more about older driver than I do younger ones. I do feel it is time for some sort of retest for people, at least an eyesight test.
DTAD18 on
In ireland in the mid 70s, there was such a backlog of applicants for driving licenses, they literally handed them out without any proof of having learnt to drive or showing any capability to drive.
Consequently my mother thinks shes an excellent driver, while making a myriad of mistakes and errors when driving.
When you hit 65, you should go and take an eye test and resist the driving theory exam and do an updated driving test.
The same at 70,75, 80 etc
Thenedslittlegirl on
Who the fuck is letting a 96 year old drive? Sorry if this sounds ageist but there should just be an age where people can’t get a license anymore.
TheTabar on
What if self-driving cars become better drivers than us? I mean, these things don’t have to be perfect, they just have to make less mistakes than humans.
Mammoth591 on
The wording from her solicitor is so odd, “the accelerator pedal fell down under her foot and she failed to react”? So what, there was a mechanical malfunction and she didn’t react? I doubt it and that was never mentioned.. So it didn’t fall down, she pressed it down. She didn’t fail to react, she failed to properly maintain control of the vehicle and just blasted her car onto the pavement hitting several elderly pedestrians, killing one.
Muiboin on
Does any one know what they mean by “The accelerator pedal fell down beneath her foot”?
AyanaRei on
I know someone whose dad was killed by a pensioner. He was walking on the pavement and the elderly man lost control. I am glad to see many people suggesting mandatory training/tests after a certain age
Exxtraa on
“the accelerator pedal fell down beneath her foot” fell? That’s one way to put it.
Safe-Dragonfly-2799 on
Pensioners really have it tough in the UK they have all these savings from working most of theirs lives in a booming economy and also get public transport free and get help with bills still now to add to it they can do pretty much anything they want and can now get away with it.
Meanwhile mofos looking for work barely being able to afford to live get fuck all
Gotta love this country.
Outrageous_Koala5381 on
I’m thinking that a 5 year driving ban is kinda pointless given 1. the woman surrendered her driving license – and 2. her frailty – assuming the wheelchair isn’t for sympathy, and 3. well, she’s 96….
Rundo5 on
I can kind of see why she got a suspended sentence. The woman is 96, it feels absolutely pointless putting her in prison.
Shouldn’t be anywhere near a wheel though. That’s insane.
IceGripe on
I think there should be a maximum driving age, along with incentives for older people to use public transport and concessions to use taxi services if they have disabilities.
BronnOP on
> “The consequences will haunt her forever. She feels great shame and guilt.”
Notify the Oxford English Dictionary, the definition of **forever** has ben changed to “a few years at best”.
Cycho-logical on
*The consequences will haunt her forever. She feels great shame and guilt.*
She’s 96 ffs.
FantasticAnus on
It’s not sad, it’s fucking predictable. This woman should have been nowhere near a car, and yet she was just allowed to go about using one until she inevitably killed somebody.
Why can’t we stop this? It’d be so easy to legislate for.
kaicoder on
For some reason this just reminds me of the Mike lynch super bizarre coincidental death of his business partner 🤔 being struck by a car also.
Underscore_Blues on
A 96 year old should not be driving. I don’t know what the age of forbidden to drive / retest should be, but it is lower than 96.
This person has not been punished.
Duck_on_Qwack on
70+ should be tested (not take the standard driving test) in some way every 3 years. Even if it’s just a quick 15min drive with someone scoring them in the car.
80+ should be tested in the same way every year
90+ really have no business driving
It would also be a decent way to create some extra jobs of people conducting these tests.
Not fully qualified driving instructors, but enough to be able to deem someone unfit to drive.
With the aging populace of the UK we really should be looking more closing at the elderly.
It’s the not the aggressive boy racer bwm who cuts me up and flips me off I fear.
It’s 85 year old Dorris, who doesn’t even realize what she’s just done and drives away having nearly killed someone.
Dark_Akarin on
mandatory re-tests should be a thing. I’m sick of hearing about another old person killing someone because “their reaction times ain’t what they used to be”.
I think the re-test (maybe every 10 years) should be:
A lesson/update on changes to the rules in the past few years.
A small 10-20 min driving test, to check basic ability.
and a quick, random, multiple choice questionnaire to check they know simple stuff like speed limits and give way priorities etc.
Anyone that fails gets 1 more go, then they loose their license and have to re-test.
Dragon_Sluts on
Why don’t we have a 80+ driving license which you can do your test for any time between 76-79 otherwise you lose your license.
I’ve once been cycling to a friends house and had a very old senile man shunt me into a roundabout because he got impatient or didn’t see me – either way, fucking scary to have people driving around who are accidents waiting to happen.
Shaper_pmp on
> “The consequences will haunt her forever.”
Well, for another 3-4 years at most, eh?
TimboWatts on
People should be certified competent with a better system than we have now, which is a nod from the GP.
A sight and reaction test would be a start…
XiKiilzziX on
What does the pedal fell beneath her foot mean? The accelerator got stuck?
That’s a quick thinking needed situation I’m not surprised someone her age couldn’t manage that.
Celestial__Peach on
It sounds harsh maybe, but i think drivers over X age should be required to do another test, a bit like passplus+ especially if you’ve had an incident. I can’t believe she was driving at this age! Unsafe for everyone!
skywalkers_glove on
Just make 70 year olds take a test. I’m not talking to the BBC same standard as a new driver. Just got competence and confidence behind the wheel. A new test to be taken every 5 years. No way should anyone over 90 be driving
NegativeIngenuity151 on
It is about time they stopped letting these geriatrics drive.
Their reaction speeds are lower, their eyesight is worse, their decision making. They are a danger to themselves and others.
Artistic_Data9398 on
Retest at 60. 70 80 and revoked at 90. Nobody at 90 should be operating anything that large
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>**”A 96-year-old has been given a suspended prison sentence after pleading guilty to causing the death of a woman by dangerous driving.**”
Yup, if you want to kill someone, use a car.
You’ll only get 18 months for it. (Suspended in this case because a 96 year old doesn’t have any business in prison)
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I think over 70s need to do driving tests every 5-10 years. And maybe after 75/80 they need to say every 2-3 years. The law needs to be changed. I just don’t think this woman should have been on the road in the first place, the test would have made sure of it.
Edit: as a qualified driving instructor myself I know that there’s a massive backlog of tests since the pandemic (cancelled tests and staffing constraints), also given how long legislation such as this can take to pass feasibility is low for the time being.
Ah yes. Yet another instance of some batty old twat killing someone and getting away with it. Nothing will change either.
Yeah. My first thought seeing this is ‘Should a 96 year old be driving in the first place?’
I’m not reading anything about a driving ban, whats to stop her from panicking and killing someone again?
My mum and her sister had to be the ones to stop my gran from driving. She was 80 and playing bumper cars getting out of the car park at the place she was living.
She fought them on it and it created some issues with their relationship because my gran felt she was having her independence unfairly taken away.
There should absolutely be mandatory retesting every few years once people hit a certain age. My gran was going to kill someone and her kids very nearly didn’t follow through with making her stop due to the amount of bad blood it was creating.
Mental you can pass your test at 18 and that’s it for the rest of your life
So, she hasn’t really been punished then? Someone has lost a family member and she’s just gotten away with it.
I live in an area with a lot of old people. Little old ladies struggling to control massive SUVs, barely able tonsee over the steering wheel. Saw an old guy who probably had dementia plough his Land Rover into the tables outside a Costa Coffee, almost killing a bunch of people. Two guys had to get into the vehicle and wrestle him out of the car as he panic-drove along the pavement.
In the case of dementia, it is up to the driver to report a diagnosis to the DVLA. It would make more sense if doctors were required to report to the DVLA.
Drivers over 70 should have to get yearly attention and memory tests from their doctor, and take bi-annual driving tests.
It won’t happen though, because enough people equate cars with freedom that being denied driving is considered cruel, even if it means innocent pedestrians die unnecessarily.
Great marketing job, car companies, you planet-destroying, murderous, ghoulish cunts.
Very sad for the person who died of course sad for the woman too though doing this in what’s probably the last few years of her life. There should probably be a ban on drivers over 87 or something.
Will she get a lifetime driving ban? Or not even in a case like this are they given?
As a cyclist I worry more about older driver than I do younger ones. I do feel it is time for some sort of retest for people, at least an eyesight test.
In ireland in the mid 70s, there was such a backlog of applicants for driving licenses, they literally handed them out without any proof of having learnt to drive or showing any capability to drive.
Consequently my mother thinks shes an excellent driver, while making a myriad of mistakes and errors when driving.
When you hit 65, you should go and take an eye test and resist the driving theory exam and do an updated driving test.
The same at 70,75, 80 etc
Who the fuck is letting a 96 year old drive? Sorry if this sounds ageist but there should just be an age where people can’t get a license anymore.
What if self-driving cars become better drivers than us? I mean, these things don’t have to be perfect, they just have to make less mistakes than humans.
The wording from her solicitor is so odd, “the accelerator pedal fell down under her foot and she failed to react”? So what, there was a mechanical malfunction and she didn’t react? I doubt it and that was never mentioned.. So it didn’t fall down, she pressed it down. She didn’t fail to react, she failed to properly maintain control of the vehicle and just blasted her car onto the pavement hitting several elderly pedestrians, killing one.
Does any one know what they mean by “The accelerator pedal fell down beneath her foot”?
I know someone whose dad was killed by a pensioner. He was walking on the pavement and the elderly man lost control. I am glad to see many people suggesting mandatory training/tests after a certain age
“the accelerator pedal fell down beneath her foot” fell? That’s one way to put it.
Pensioners really have it tough in the UK they have all these savings from working most of theirs lives in a booming economy and also get public transport free and get help with bills still now to add to it they can do pretty much anything they want and can now get away with it.
Meanwhile mofos looking for work barely being able to afford to live get fuck all
Gotta love this country.
I’m thinking that a 5 year driving ban is kinda pointless given 1. the woman surrendered her driving license – and 2. her frailty – assuming the wheelchair isn’t for sympathy, and 3. well, she’s 96….
I can kind of see why she got a suspended sentence. The woman is 96, it feels absolutely pointless putting her in prison.
Shouldn’t be anywhere near a wheel though. That’s insane.
I think there should be a maximum driving age, along with incentives for older people to use public transport and concessions to use taxi services if they have disabilities.
> “The consequences will haunt her forever. She feels great shame and guilt.”
Notify the Oxford English Dictionary, the definition of **forever** has ben changed to “a few years at best”.
*The consequences will haunt her forever. She feels great shame and guilt.*
She’s 96 ffs.
It’s not sad, it’s fucking predictable. This woman should have been nowhere near a car, and yet she was just allowed to go about using one until she inevitably killed somebody.
Why can’t we stop this? It’d be so easy to legislate for.
For some reason this just reminds me of the Mike lynch super bizarre coincidental death of his business partner 🤔 being struck by a car also.
A 96 year old should not be driving. I don’t know what the age of forbidden to drive / retest should be, but it is lower than 96.
This person has not been punished.
70+ should be tested (not take the standard driving test) in some way every 3 years. Even if it’s just a quick 15min drive with someone scoring them in the car.
80+ should be tested in the same way every year
90+ really have no business driving
It would also be a decent way to create some extra jobs of people conducting these tests.
Not fully qualified driving instructors, but enough to be able to deem someone unfit to drive.
With the aging populace of the UK we really should be looking more closing at the elderly.
It’s the not the aggressive boy racer bwm who cuts me up and flips me off I fear.
It’s 85 year old Dorris, who doesn’t even realize what she’s just done and drives away having nearly killed someone.
mandatory re-tests should be a thing. I’m sick of hearing about another old person killing someone because “their reaction times ain’t what they used to be”.
I think the re-test (maybe every 10 years) should be:
A lesson/update on changes to the rules in the past few years.
A small 10-20 min driving test, to check basic ability.
and a quick, random, multiple choice questionnaire to check they know simple stuff like speed limits and give way priorities etc.
Anyone that fails gets 1 more go, then they loose their license and have to re-test.
Why don’t we have a 80+ driving license which you can do your test for any time between 76-79 otherwise you lose your license.
I’ve once been cycling to a friends house and had a very old senile man shunt me into a roundabout because he got impatient or didn’t see me – either way, fucking scary to have people driving around who are accidents waiting to happen.
> “The consequences will haunt her forever.”
Well, for another 3-4 years at most, eh?
People should be certified competent with a better system than we have now, which is a nod from the GP.
A sight and reaction test would be a start…
What does the pedal fell beneath her foot mean? The accelerator got stuck?
That’s a quick thinking needed situation I’m not surprised someone her age couldn’t manage that.
It sounds harsh maybe, but i think drivers over X age should be required to do another test, a bit like passplus+ especially if you’ve had an incident. I can’t believe she was driving at this age! Unsafe for everyone!
Just make 70 year olds take a test. I’m not talking to the BBC same standard as a new driver. Just got competence and confidence behind the wheel. A new test to be taken every 5 years. No way should anyone over 90 be driving
It is about time they stopped letting these geriatrics drive.
Their reaction speeds are lower, their eyesight is worse, their decision making. They are a danger to themselves and others.
Retest at 60. 70 80 and revoked at 90. Nobody at 90 should be operating anything that large