Jobcentre “so no luck with the job search then, have you considered death?”
Serious_Session7574 on
This really opens the door to the disabled feeling pressured to end their lives.
techbear72 on
I mean, it’s the Torygraph, but I don’t really see why anyone who’s “incurably suffering” shouldn’t have the free choice to end their own life.
They already do after all, anyone able bodied can jump off a bridge or in front of a train but that causes trauma to many other people in the clean up, so why not have a reasonable path forward for people who are “incurably suffering”.
Nobody else should have a say in what I do with my life, including ending it, so long as I don’t hurt anyone else.
ratttertintattertins on
On the one hand, I agree incurable suffering should be included. On the other, I wouldn’t want the bill as it stands to be defeated because it’s scope had become too broad. Maybe that bit should come in a later bill.
jamesbeil on
That was quick, given what a point the proposer made of keeping it very narrowly focussed.
How long until ‘withdraw care from the elderly or disabled because killing them off is cheaper for Are NHS’ becomes a policy proposal?
WerewolfNo890 on
Old or disabled, burden on your family? Just fucking end it. Book a free consultation today.
Tookarn on
Definitely need this as an option especially with the NHS failing
Kijamon on
With the right protections in place this could be a forward thinking policy that avoids having to watch loved ones become empty husks in their final hours.
So I’m fully expecting it to be defeated by Labour hitting a panic button last minute
sensiebh on
Slippery slope starting before it is even legalised.
Assisted suicide throws away a very important principle about the preservation of life, so this is inevitable.
CharringtonCross on
Definitely no slippery slope with this policy direction.
Though fair warning, it’s a pretty harrowing read.
In general with these things, I’m in favour of letting people decide for themselves. There absolutely needs to be a conversation about how we guarantee that nobody has been pressured into it though, with the obvious example of that being family members that pressure granny to have assisted dying rather than expensive hospice care that eats up all of the inheritance.
But reading that article was *genuinely* uncomfortable (which is the point, I suppose), and it’s hard not to wonder if there was another solution for people that aren’t terminal.
NyteToast on
If this was extended to be universally available to everyone, a lot of suicidal people would go to it, and it would provide a route to make sure more people are exposed to suicide prevention services.
bateau_du_gateau on
If this becomes legal no one will be leaving an NHS hospital alive
ParkingMachine3534 on
2029. Labour election campaign.
“We managed to solve the care crisis, the pension black hole and save the NHS in only 5 years!”
“We have less people on disability benefit, less pensioners claiming, NHS waiting lists are down.”
King_Keyser on
Couldn’t incurable suffering be things like locked in syndrome?
Or being nearly completely paralysed?
Shouldn’t those people not be allowed to end their life if they wish and meet the competence requirements
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Jobcentre “so no luck with the job search then, have you considered death?”
This really opens the door to the disabled feeling pressured to end their lives.
I mean, it’s the Torygraph, but I don’t really see why anyone who’s “incurably suffering” shouldn’t have the free choice to end their own life.
They already do after all, anyone able bodied can jump off a bridge or in front of a train but that causes trauma to many other people in the clean up, so why not have a reasonable path forward for people who are “incurably suffering”.
Nobody else should have a say in what I do with my life, including ending it, so long as I don’t hurt anyone else.
On the one hand, I agree incurable suffering should be included. On the other, I wouldn’t want the bill as it stands to be defeated because it’s scope had become too broad. Maybe that bit should come in a later bill.
That was quick, given what a point the proposer made of keeping it very narrowly focussed.
How long until ‘withdraw care from the elderly or disabled because killing them off is cheaper for Are NHS’ becomes a policy proposal?
Old or disabled, burden on your family? Just fucking end it. Book a free consultation today.
Definitely need this as an option especially with the NHS failing
With the right protections in place this could be a forward thinking policy that avoids having to watch loved ones become empty husks in their final hours.
So I’m fully expecting it to be defeated by Labour hitting a panic button last minute
Slippery slope starting before it is even legalised.
Assisted suicide throws away a very important principle about the preservation of life, so this is inevitable.
Definitely no slippery slope with this policy direction.
This is already a thing in other countries. For example, have a read of this article about a woman in the Netherlands, who was granted the right to die because of her mental health: https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/may/16/dutch-woman-euthanasia-approval-grounds-of-mental-suffering
Though fair warning, it’s a pretty harrowing read.
In general with these things, I’m in favour of letting people decide for themselves. There absolutely needs to be a conversation about how we guarantee that nobody has been pressured into it though, with the obvious example of that being family members that pressure granny to have assisted dying rather than expensive hospice care that eats up all of the inheritance.
But reading that article was *genuinely* uncomfortable (which is the point, I suppose), and it’s hard not to wonder if there was another solution for people that aren’t terminal.
If this was extended to be universally available to everyone, a lot of suicidal people would go to it, and it would provide a route to make sure more people are exposed to suicide prevention services.
If this becomes legal no one will be leaving an NHS hospital alive
2029. Labour election campaign.
“We managed to solve the care crisis, the pension black hole and save the NHS in only 5 years!”
“We have less people on disability benefit, less pensioners claiming, NHS waiting lists are down.”
Couldn’t incurable suffering be things like locked in syndrome?
Or being nearly completely paralysed?
Shouldn’t those people not be allowed to end their life if they wish and meet the competence requirements