It’s quite sad to be honest. Hope to visit the rest of historical armenia one day :/
Chezameh2 on
Genetic testing of “Turks” from Erzurum show they’re largely a mix of Armenians, Kartvelians & Kurds. So technically Armenians never left 😄
armeniapedia on
What’s much more astonishing for me is how incredibly far it is from the borders of today’s Republic of Armenia. Like 2 Armenias away from us.
Efficient-Judge-9294 on
History sucks, Armenians my heart goes out to you. My grandma said her grandma used to play with Native American children from a tribe that lived 3 km behind the family home we owned for 8 generations. Sadly, the tribe went extinct in the 1970s, and there are no Natives left in the area.
_Armanius_ on
Recently we witnessed very similar situation. Artsakh being populated majority by Armenians since God knows when, now it’s completely depopulated
RebootedShadowRaider on
A tragically common fate for many Armenian capitals.
searchergal on
People from Erzurum score very high Armenian on dna tests. I don’t think Armenians left there but rather got assimilated. Some Armenians track their family line all the way back to Erzurum. Sad but true. If you know a Turkish person from Erzurum, ask them to check “e-devlet” where it shows all your family members as back as in 1800s. If they weren’t assimilated a couple of centuries back, they will be able to see Armenian names or villages there. https://www.reddit.com/r/armenia/s/pOI8GibrDj
Few_Drop_1532 on
There are 2-3 million Armenian devshirme in Turkey and the cities are Erzurum, Bayburt and Gümüşhane. We need to return them to our roots.
Designer_Beyond_152 on
Why was Erzurum considered the capital of the Armenian nation in the 1700s, and not Van or Kars?
CluelessExxpat on
This city has seen some real shit. Invaded, looted and devastated multiple times by different empires.
GazelleGlittering702 on
I am a Kurd from the Kurdistan region of Iraq. My father always talked about his grandfather who adopted two Armenian children who survived the Armenian Genocide. One of the children was a little boy who was 11 years old and his little sister who was only 4 years old. When my great-grandfather went to Mosul to buy some things, he saw a little boy crying on the road carrying his little sister. He was barefoot and his clothes were torn. When he approached them, the two children cried and my great-grandfather hugged them. He asked them why they were crying. The boy said that he lived with his family in Erzurum but suddenly the Turks attacked their house and killed his mother and father. So he carried his little sister and they ran for several days until they reached Mosul. After that, he took the two children to his home and raised them with his wife. Days passed and the children grew up. Suddenly, years later, the uncle of the two children who survived the Armenian Genocide knocked on the door of my great-grandparents’ house and asked if his nephews lived there. They said yes. Later, their uncle asked the children to come back with him, but they refused at first. Later, they went to Yerevan with their uncle. The separation was very difficult for both of them, and even after that, they visited my great-grandparents constantly.
lerk_a on
I see you are new inti Armenian history, which is full of such astonishing facts, from old times till the recent years🤷🏻♂️
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It’s quite sad to be honest. Hope to visit the rest of historical armenia one day :/
Genetic testing of “Turks” from Erzurum show they’re largely a mix of Armenians, Kartvelians & Kurds. So technically Armenians never left 😄
What’s much more astonishing for me is how incredibly far it is from the borders of today’s Republic of Armenia. Like 2 Armenias away from us.
History sucks, Armenians my heart goes out to you. My grandma said her grandma used to play with Native American children from a tribe that lived 3 km behind the family home we owned for 8 generations. Sadly, the tribe went extinct in the 1970s, and there are no Natives left in the area.
Recently we witnessed very similar situation. Artsakh being populated majority by Armenians since God knows when, now it’s completely depopulated
A tragically common fate for many Armenian capitals.
People from Erzurum score very high Armenian on dna tests. I don’t think Armenians left there but rather got assimilated. Some Armenians track their family line all the way back to Erzurum. Sad but true. If you know a Turkish person from Erzurum, ask them to check “e-devlet” where it shows all your family members as back as in 1800s. If they weren’t assimilated a couple of centuries back, they will be able to see Armenian names or villages there.
https://www.reddit.com/r/armenia/s/pOI8GibrDj
There are 2-3 million Armenian devshirme in Turkey and the cities are Erzurum, Bayburt and Gümüşhane. We need to return them to our roots.
Why was Erzurum considered the capital of the Armenian nation in the 1700s, and not Van or Kars?
This city has seen some real shit. Invaded, looted and devastated multiple times by different empires.
I am a Kurd from the Kurdistan region of Iraq. My father always talked about his grandfather who adopted two Armenian children who survived the Armenian Genocide. One of the children was a little boy who was 11 years old and his little sister who was only 4 years old. When my great-grandfather went to Mosul to buy some things, he saw a little boy crying on the road carrying his little sister. He was barefoot and his clothes were torn. When he approached them, the two children cried and my great-grandfather hugged them. He asked them why they were crying. The boy said that he lived with his family in Erzurum but suddenly the Turks attacked their house and killed his mother and father. So he carried his little sister and they ran for several days until they reached Mosul. After that, he took the two children to his home and raised them with his wife. Days passed and the children grew up. Suddenly, years later, the uncle of the two children who survived the Armenian Genocide knocked on the door of my great-grandparents’ house and asked if his nephews lived there. They said yes. Later, their uncle asked the children to come back with him, but they refused at first. Later, they went to Yerevan with their uncle. The separation was very difficult for both of them, and even after that, they visited my great-grandparents constantly.
I see you are new inti Armenian history, which is full of such astonishing facts, from old times till the recent years🤷🏻♂️