Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. People expect not to get custodial sentences because they have children they didn’t give a sh*t about enough to consider the consequences of their actions?? Cry me a river.
Jeq0 on
Yeah well tough. Blame your parents and not the system.
annoyedtenant123 on
UK is pretty soft on crime….
If both her parents were extradited and jailed clearly it wasn’t a minor criminal offence.
Cannot ignore serious criminal Actions just because they have a child….
In a lot of cases the children are probably better off not being raised by the dregs of society
Sleepywalker69 on
For people who haven’t or won’t spend time reading the article: it’s about how kids are affected when their parents go to prison. It’s not about the parents or their crimes but about how the kids are left struggling with homelessness, stigma, and no proper support from social services.
One example is a 17-year-old who was left sofa-surfing because no one helped her after her parents were jailed. Another is a grandmother who had to take in five grandkids in a tiny two-bedroom house.
The article’s point is that these kids didn’t do anything wrong, but they’re being punished because the system doesn’t step in to help them. It’s a call for better support to stop them slipping through the cracks.
Deterding on
I mean I do feel bad for them, but hey, life isn’t fair. Nothing stopping this person from getting a job or accessing benefits. A quick google or a post to Reddit will tell you as much – it’s not that resources aren’t available, people expect it to be handed to them.
Born_Ebb_4257 on
Perhaps parents should consider the impact that the consequences of breaking the law would have on their children before breaking the law.
AlpacamyLlama on
I can see the point overall, particularly when talking about how some chilren were actually just living by themselves when both parents were in prison. There should be something to resolve this, although ultimately it will involve them going into care I imagine.
But the details always just make you despair. Five kids, dad in prison and then the mum ends up there as well. Bloody hell.
But there’s always a bit in such articles where it takes it too far.
>When Emily spoke to Woman’s Hour she said she and her family needed more guidance at the point of sentencing – so that her children would have know what prison was so they understood it is “not a horrific, horrible thing”.
>”It’s not shameful, it’s not embarrassing, it’s not a stigma,” she said.
Unfortunately, it is. Someone choosing to commit a crime does bring shame on those around them. There’s certainly a stigma that is simply unavoidable.
If my child was invited to a play date by a family, and they either have someone in prison or someone who has been in prison, it would be a ‘no’. I wouldn’t allow my child to mock the other kid, or to isolate them at school. But there are limits caused by the actions of individuals in the other family.
We constantly get article after article saying ‘stigmas need to be removed’ or that we shouln’t shame ‘xyz’. And of course, there will be cases where it is a good point. But plenty where we are being asked to reject much of the learning and behaviour that has helped form our society and kept us safe.
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Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. People expect not to get custodial sentences because they have children they didn’t give a sh*t about enough to consider the consequences of their actions?? Cry me a river.
Yeah well tough. Blame your parents and not the system.
UK is pretty soft on crime….
If both her parents were extradited and jailed clearly it wasn’t a minor criminal offence.
Cannot ignore serious criminal Actions just because they have a child….
In a lot of cases the children are probably better off not being raised by the dregs of society
For people who haven’t or won’t spend time reading the article: it’s about how kids are affected when their parents go to prison. It’s not about the parents or their crimes but about how the kids are left struggling with homelessness, stigma, and no proper support from social services.
One example is a 17-year-old who was left sofa-surfing because no one helped her after her parents were jailed. Another is a grandmother who had to take in five grandkids in a tiny two-bedroom house.
The article’s point is that these kids didn’t do anything wrong, but they’re being punished because the system doesn’t step in to help them. It’s a call for better support to stop them slipping through the cracks.
I mean I do feel bad for them, but hey, life isn’t fair. Nothing stopping this person from getting a job or accessing benefits. A quick google or a post to Reddit will tell you as much – it’s not that resources aren’t available, people expect it to be handed to them.
Perhaps parents should consider the impact that the consequences of breaking the law would have on their children before breaking the law.
I can see the point overall, particularly when talking about how some chilren were actually just living by themselves when both parents were in prison. There should be something to resolve this, although ultimately it will involve them going into care I imagine.
But the details always just make you despair. Five kids, dad in prison and then the mum ends up there as well. Bloody hell.
But there’s always a bit in such articles where it takes it too far.
>When Emily spoke to Woman’s Hour she said she and her family needed more guidance at the point of sentencing – so that her children would have know what prison was so they understood it is “not a horrific, horrible thing”.
>”It’s not shameful, it’s not embarrassing, it’s not a stigma,” she said.
Unfortunately, it is. Someone choosing to commit a crime does bring shame on those around them. There’s certainly a stigma that is simply unavoidable.
If my child was invited to a play date by a family, and they either have someone in prison or someone who has been in prison, it would be a ‘no’. I wouldn’t allow my child to mock the other kid, or to isolate them at school. But there are limits caused by the actions of individuals in the other family.
We constantly get article after article saying ‘stigmas need to be removed’ or that we shouln’t shame ‘xyz’. And of course, there will be cases where it is a good point. But plenty where we are being asked to reject much of the learning and behaviour that has helped form our society and kept us safe.