Il Regno Unito deve scegliere tra il modello economico statunitense o il “socialismo” dell’UE, afferma il consigliere di Trump | Politica commerciale
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/nov/16/trump-adviser-says-uk-needs-free-enterprise-model-to-aid-us-trade-deal
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What is the US model under Trump? Everything he touches dies.
No one wants to work with him twice and he is untrustworthy. Only one person of his 2016 cabinet supported his campaign. Before him was Biden who went out of his way to say fuck you to the UK. There’s no special relationship. This is about trust and the US right now is taking a downturn. You don’t hold onto someone about to jump.
Socialism any day thank you, if you’re against socialism, ask if you like the nhs, if you do, well colour colour me surprised! That’s socialism (or communism over the pond, but let’s not split hairs.)
The UK already has Europe style taxes and socialism.
In France & Germany where “taxes” are higher pension provisions are much more generous and based on contributions… here you get a much smaller flat amount. If you remove pensions from the equation UK taxes are some of the highest in the world.
The US model in this case being “not understanding how tariffs work”
The UK will pick whichever one makes the rich richer and the poor poorer. Inevitably.
Socialism please. Using the number of billionaires as a metric of success isn’t working.
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US is a failed state. 5% of the world population. 25% of world consumption. Homeless camps. Zero public services. Go to hell capitalist fascists.
Easy, let’s choose socialism – rather than an economic model that sees people selling their home when they get cancer because they can’t afford the healthcare costs.
The fact that he only has four years and then we’ll likely see change again (who knows in what way), coupled with potentially losing Congress during the midterms in two years means there isn’t a lot of stability in the US option, even if it were preferable.
People live longer in EU’s “socialism” https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/03/25/1164819944/live-free-and-die-the-sad-state-of-u-s-life-expectancy
WE HAD A SAY IN THE EU, the US will give us none. Good work brexiteers we regained sorbet to become a vassal of the US
Blah blah, heard all this last time out and we’ll hear it again.
Can we have neither? I know it’s something we like to pretend that Europe has it all figured out but on the whole it doesn’t.
That sounds like a great argument for rejoining the EU.
So pick between the model that works and is stable or the one that causes global economic recessions every few decades, relies on constant war and coups, that has daily school shootings and where a broken bone can bankrupt a family and where you don’t even get holidays and where you don’t get paid proper wages but have to beg for tips? Hmmm
EU ..Hands off whats left of our NHS and you can keep your shit food too.
Is “socialism” in the room with us now, Stephen? I could be mistaken, but last I checked, the proletariat hadn’t seized the means of production across the channel.
This is nothing to do with “economic models” and everything to do with US companies owning more and more of the UK and making us pay rent to exist in our own country.
The EU is capitalist. The USA is capitalist. I’d prefer neither.
Yes we must choose between being a poodle to a fascist or trading with our nearest neighbours.
Sadly, I think I might know what [the government of] this country will pick.
To quote Princess Anne when someone tried to kidnap her in similar shambolic fashion :
Not bloody likely!
I think we should be able to choose our own policy personally
I will, once again, choose EU, but not you, weird fascist-nazi-Trump.
Ah yes, let’s follow a nation which has 37 million people in absolute poverty and falling ill can lead to bankruptcy and homelessness.
Let’s choose a model that allows us to keep what we have at the moment. That is the supposed “socialism” this guy speaks about.
You do all realise that “socialism” for these people is everything that does not equal their ideals, right?
Silly America.
We will pick the worst of both, as is tradition.
Trade with the EU is far greater than the US. Unless Trump opens up the whole economy to the UK, we will align with the more stable EU. If we do what Trump asks he will always ask for more tribute.
If the EU wants the UK to side with it, maybe do something about the migrant crisis that actually has clout and will stop the flow of people that cannot be supported. i.e the lot.
Fully-automated gay space communism now! Or maybe just some gentle social democracy a la Corbyn 2017…
From the thumbnail image I thought Jacob Rees-Mogg got a new job advising Trump
As we have more in control with the EU then sorry America there’s no choice needed
So the choice between a dictatorship, as it will be, with literally no support for anybody which will end up with such a stupid economic divide to be bonkers, or a more socially conscientious society that, hopefully, looks to the future.
It’s a difficult decision. 🤔