That’s an awful lot of words just to say she doesn’t want to pay taxes.
Jog on.
somnamna2516 on
South Africa’s richest man actively interfering with uk politics, South Africa’s richest woman basically refusing to pay taxes.
Ajax_Trees_Again on
“Man who refuses to pay for a ticket is fighting to stay inside cinema”
Best-Hovercraft-5494 on
SA stable enough 50% of her buisness but not for her. She is welcome to stay just pay your taxes.
Spirited-Quote8889 on
We keep hearing that we are doing more to tax the rich but when they are actively trying to stay, what does that say about our government and the lies they are spewing.
MattMBerkshire on
So in short..
It’s raising the cost of her HOUSEKEEPERS AND GARDENERS!!
Irony from a South African wanting cheap labour.
sgwennog on
The flex here being that a big contributing factor of the African continent being an economic shit show is rich Africans not paying anything back into the societies that made them rich. She now wants to do the same here, and if it makes the UK a shithole, she’ll just move elsewhere.
“I want to benefit from this society, but not contribute towards it, damn it! Why won’t you let me?”
Glass_Box_6291 on
Are we all supposed to feel sorry for a person with more money that I’ll ever see in a life time because she doesn’t want to pay her taxes?
Get to absolute fuck.
robtheblob12345 on
This is bs, even if you’re not a non-dom you still get foreign tax credits on tax suffered abroad. She’s acting as though this isn’t the case. She’s just bitter because she has to pay more tax as a result; that’s it. No other countries really offer a non dom status so it’s a totally moot point, she knows there’s basically no where else she can move that offers this perk
PurahsHero on
Translation: What do you mean I have to pay TAX? I have to buy 3 yachts next year!!
piercethevortex on
None of you read the article, she had to leave because she exposed state corruption.
“That was, at least, until her assiduous activism forced her to move for a second time. In 2017 a whistleblower handed her a a drive containing over 500,000 emails that revealed the true scale of rank corruption and iniquity that lay at the heart of the South African government.
And after several tense conversations with lawyers, journalists and campaigners, she decided to release them – expediting the end of Jacob Zuma’s contentious tenure as South Africa’s President and bringing down UK PR shop Bell Pottinger in the process. Then, fearing for her safety, she fled to London with her family, using a luxury Park Lane hotel as a bolt hole.
Ultimately, her family would return to her adopted home, but the constant phone-tapping, threats on Twitter, and interventions from state security led Wierzycka to make London her home.”
lordnacho666 on
She’s proposing a wealth tax instead, but surely that wouldn’t keep her around the UK either?
In any case the non-dom thing is special to the UK. Getting rid of it normalises things. I actually think it would make more sense if every country had it, because then every country would be taxing things where the businesses are, not where the owners are. But alas it’s not how it works.
ridgestride on
Stay as long as you want by Paying your taxes. She’s a drain on our system. Pay up or go.
lookatmeman on
We only lose out by taxing the ultra wealth because they can escape to other tax havens. It doesn’t mean the policy is wrong.
Besides I bet a lot of these ‘investments’ into the UK economy are in property so they can rent it out to ordinary people. I don’t see that as an investment I see it as David competing with Goliath.
Own-Nefariousness-79 on
Funny, the focus is on poor people arriving in dinghies.
It’s those arriving in private jets we need to focus on.
jtthom on
“until last month’s Budget all but confirmed that she would need to start making preparations for a third involuntary international relocation”
What part of this is *involuntary*?! I don’t think that word means what they think it means
Sick of rich crybabies refusing to pay their share of taxes. It’s like abandoning your car on the motorway because you refuse to pay a toll fare.
veerKg_CSS_Geologist on
Why should she get “non-dom status” when she is living in the UK? lol. This is her home, she can pay her taxes just like all her gardeners and butlers do.
TangyZizz on
Bit of a tangent but what’s the deal with people who gained refugee status due to a situation in their country that is long passed?
This lady was born in Poland and claimed asylum at an Austrian refugee processing centre after fleeing Poland’s Communist regime. Austria facilitated her passage to South Africa, which is now unsafe for her.
Is there anyway to reclaim a nationality (in this case, Polish) that was given up in a completely different political environment? Or should Austria be offering visa status to someone they helped ship off to SA decades ago? Are Poland and Austria’s tax systems less favourable to her than the UKs (I’m guessing yes!) I would imagine Poland would love a high rate tax payer in residence now that they are very much not-communist.
Must be more options available to her than staying in a posh London hotel forever (although of course she is welcome to stay as long as she obeys the law and pays her taxes, I’m just using her story as a springboard to wonder about what happens with refugees who do want to return home to their country of birth decades later – especially if they have since naturalised into citizens of their host country, rather than staying on Indefinite Leave to Remain… indefinitely).
EldritchCleavage on
How many countries offer non-dom status? People here assume it is the norm but in fact it isn’t.
The US doesn’t. It also makes its own citizens pay US tax regardless of where they live (now that probably should be the norm).
I am looking forward to the influence of this group of people being over; I don’t think their interests are our interests and fiscal policy should not pander to them.
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Throw her out please.
Aparthide supporting cretin.
That’s an awful lot of words just to say she doesn’t want to pay taxes.
Jog on.
South Africa’s richest man actively interfering with uk politics, South Africa’s richest woman basically refusing to pay taxes.
“Man who refuses to pay for a ticket is fighting to stay inside cinema”
SA stable enough 50% of her buisness but not for her. She is welcome to stay just pay your taxes.
We keep hearing that we are doing more to tax the rich but when they are actively trying to stay, what does that say about our government and the lies they are spewing.
So in short..
It’s raising the cost of her HOUSEKEEPERS AND GARDENERS!!
Irony from a South African wanting cheap labour.
The flex here being that a big contributing factor of the African continent being an economic shit show is rich Africans not paying anything back into the societies that made them rich. She now wants to do the same here, and if it makes the UK a shithole, she’ll just move elsewhere.
“I want to benefit from this society, but not contribute towards it, damn it! Why won’t you let me?”
Are we all supposed to feel sorry for a person with more money that I’ll ever see in a life time because she doesn’t want to pay her taxes?
Get to absolute fuck.
This is bs, even if you’re not a non-dom you still get foreign tax credits on tax suffered abroad. She’s acting as though this isn’t the case. She’s just bitter because she has to pay more tax as a result; that’s it. No other countries really offer a non dom status so it’s a totally moot point, she knows there’s basically no where else she can move that offers this perk
Translation: What do you mean I have to pay TAX? I have to buy 3 yachts next year!!
None of you read the article, she had to leave because she exposed state corruption.
“That was, at least, until her assiduous activism forced her to move for a second time. In 2017 a whistleblower handed her a a drive containing over 500,000 emails that revealed the true scale of rank corruption and iniquity that lay at the heart of the South African government.
And after several tense conversations with lawyers, journalists and campaigners, she decided to release them – expediting the end of Jacob Zuma’s contentious tenure as South Africa’s President and bringing down UK PR shop Bell Pottinger in the process. Then, fearing for her safety, she fled to London with her family, using a luxury Park Lane hotel as a bolt hole.
Ultimately, her family would return to her adopted home, but the constant phone-tapping, threats on Twitter, and interventions from state security led Wierzycka to make London her home.”
She’s proposing a wealth tax instead, but surely that wouldn’t keep her around the UK either?
In any case the non-dom thing is special to the UK. Getting rid of it normalises things. I actually think it would make more sense if every country had it, because then every country would be taxing things where the businesses are, not where the owners are. But alas it’s not how it works.
Stay as long as you want by Paying your taxes. She’s a drain on our system. Pay up or go.
We only lose out by taxing the ultra wealth because they can escape to other tax havens. It doesn’t mean the policy is wrong.
Besides I bet a lot of these ‘investments’ into the UK economy are in property so they can rent it out to ordinary people. I don’t see that as an investment I see it as David competing with Goliath.
Funny, the focus is on poor people arriving in dinghies.
It’s those arriving in private jets we need to focus on.
“until last month’s Budget all but confirmed that she would need to start making preparations for a third involuntary international relocation”
What part of this is *involuntary*?! I don’t think that word means what they think it means
Sick of rich crybabies refusing to pay their share of taxes. It’s like abandoning your car on the motorway because you refuse to pay a toll fare.
Why should she get “non-dom status” when she is living in the UK? lol. This is her home, she can pay her taxes just like all her gardeners and butlers do.
Bit of a tangent but what’s the deal with people who gained refugee status due to a situation in their country that is long passed?
This lady was born in Poland and claimed asylum at an Austrian refugee processing centre after fleeing Poland’s Communist regime. Austria facilitated her passage to South Africa, which is now unsafe for her.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magda_Wierzycka
Is there anyway to reclaim a nationality (in this case, Polish) that was given up in a completely different political environment? Or should Austria be offering visa status to someone they helped ship off to SA decades ago? Are Poland and Austria’s tax systems less favourable to her than the UKs (I’m guessing yes!) I would imagine Poland would love a high rate tax payer in residence now that they are very much not-communist.
Must be more options available to her than staying in a posh London hotel forever (although of course she is welcome to stay as long as she obeys the law and pays her taxes, I’m just using her story as a springboard to wonder about what happens with refugees who do want to return home to their country of birth decades later – especially if they have since naturalised into citizens of their host country, rather than staying on Indefinite Leave to Remain… indefinitely).
How many countries offer non-dom status? People here assume it is the norm but in fact it isn’t.
The US doesn’t. It also makes its own citizens pay US tax regardless of where they live (now that probably should be the norm).
I am looking forward to the influence of this group of people being over; I don’t think their interests are our interests and fiscal policy should not pander to them.
Also, she could go back to Poland.