Jesus Christ, some people have no shame. What on Earth did she expect.
trmetroidmaniac on
>Dismissing Fairbanks’ claim, Jumble said: “There has to be a distinction between a philosophical belief and a strongly held opinion. If, for example, ‘wanting to leave the EU’ was held to be a philosophical belief, then more than half the British electorate would have a belief that fell within [equality laws], which could not be the intention of the legislation.
Half the British electorate has a religious belief which definitely falls under the protection of this law. What a peculiar justification.
Advanced_Apartment_1 on
The reason for the sacking specifically were supporting/liking content referencing illegal immigration.
Brexit appears to be used as a bit of a side bar/red herring/click bait.
grayparrot116 on
Aaaahh! More of the good ol’ excepcionalism I see!
Welcome to the real world, darling. A political ideology is not something that deserves “protection” in the workplace.
jj198handsy on
So she is essentially arguing that her opinion that ‘we should leave the court of human rights’ is protected by her rights as a human?
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0Bento on
Wants to leave European Convention on Human Rights.
Also wants to use the Equality Act.
brainburger on
>If, for example, ‘wanting to leave the EU’ was held to be a philosophical belief, then more than half the British electorate would have a belief that fell within [equality laws], which could not be the intention of the legislation.
I am not sure I see the logic here. I don’t think it’s the case that protected characteristics have to be unusual. Being a woman is a protected characteristic, as is a religious opinion, including atheism.
>Despite some probing, both by the tribunal and in cross-examination, no coherent belief or set of beliefs was forthcoming.
haha yes that sounds pretty normal.
InfectedFrenulum on
“What do you mean I’m being racist by saying ‘We need gunboats in the English channel, take down their flying carpets like we did the Luftwaffe?’ I’m just standing up for our sovereignty innit?”
BalianofReddit on
Ngl it’s litterally a good indications of just how stuckup, racist or just plain stupid someone is.
Why the fuck shouldn’t that be considered as an indicator for employment
Not to mention if someone voted brexit, their contribution to that vote has probably cost the business they’re trying to get a job at a fair bit of money.
No sympathy.
TheFergPunk on
Kinda seems a bit ironic for someone who is an ex UKIP councillor to try and use the Equality Act considering UKIP have proposed scrapping it for over a decade.
adreddit298 on
I’m not disappearing with the ruling, but:
>If, for example, ‘wanting to leave the EU’ was held to be a philosophical belief, then more than half the British electorate would have a belief that fell within [equality laws], which could not be the intention of the legislation.
this is a weird statement. It’s absolutely the intent of the legislation; it’s possible that more than half the electorate could have a belief that is protected. An easy example would be if more than 50% were followers of a specific religion, or were members of a political party. Either of those things should not be grounds for dismissal. The amount of the population believing in something doesn’t affect whether that thing is protected.
I_ALWAYS_UPVOTE_CATS on
Entirely sensible decision. I imagine if I said that I had a ‘strongly held philosophical view’ that my manager was a cunt, I’d be out of a job by teatime.
There’s a link to the full judgment, it’s not long and it’s very obvious why this person didn’t win her case. The headline for this article is misleading.
She started a job at a charity without initially disclosing that she was a UKIP activist who was promoting Tommy Robinson posts online, IE advocating for a known racist who has on various occasions committed and incited hate crimes. During the hearing, and in the written submissions, she failed to explain what her philosophical beliefs actually were. She essentially said that she believed in UKIP, getting rid of the human rights act, and banning Halal butchers, without being able to give any underlying reasons or theories.
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Jesus Christ, some people have no shame. What on Earth did she expect.
>Dismissing Fairbanks’ claim, Jumble said: “There has to be a distinction between a philosophical belief and a strongly held opinion. If, for example, ‘wanting to leave the EU’ was held to be a philosophical belief, then more than half the British electorate would have a belief that fell within [equality laws], which could not be the intention of the legislation.
Half the British electorate has a religious belief which definitely falls under the protection of this law. What a peculiar justification.
The reason for the sacking specifically were supporting/liking content referencing illegal immigration.
Brexit appears to be used as a bit of a side bar/red herring/click bait.
Aaaahh! More of the good ol’ excepcionalism I see!
Welcome to the real world, darling. A political ideology is not something that deserves “protection” in the workplace.
So she is essentially arguing that her opinion that ‘we should leave the court of human rights’ is protected by her rights as a human?
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Wants to leave European Convention on Human Rights.
Also wants to use the Equality Act.
>If, for example, ‘wanting to leave the EU’ was held to be a philosophical belief, then more than half the British electorate would have a belief that fell within [equality laws], which could not be the intention of the legislation.
I am not sure I see the logic here. I don’t think it’s the case that protected characteristics have to be unusual. Being a woman is a protected characteristic, as is a religious opinion, including atheism.
>Despite some probing, both by the tribunal and in cross-examination, no coherent belief or set of beliefs was forthcoming.
haha yes that sounds pretty normal.
“What do you mean I’m being racist by saying ‘We need gunboats in the English channel, take down their flying carpets like we did the Luftwaffe?’ I’m just standing up for our sovereignty innit?”
Ngl it’s litterally a good indications of just how stuckup, racist or just plain stupid someone is.
Why the fuck shouldn’t that be considered as an indicator for employment
Not to mention if someone voted brexit, their contribution to that vote has probably cost the business they’re trying to get a job at a fair bit of money.
No sympathy.
Kinda seems a bit ironic for someone who is an ex UKIP councillor to try and use the Equality Act considering UKIP have proposed scrapping it for over a decade.
I’m not disappearing with the ruling, but:
>If, for example, ‘wanting to leave the EU’ was held to be a philosophical belief, then more than half the British electorate would have a belief that fell within [equality laws], which could not be the intention of the legislation.
this is a weird statement. It’s absolutely the intent of the legislation; it’s possible that more than half the electorate could have a belief that is protected. An easy example would be if more than 50% were followers of a specific religion, or were members of a political party. Either of those things should not be grounds for dismissal. The amount of the population believing in something doesn’t affect whether that thing is protected.
Entirely sensible decision. I imagine if I said that I had a ‘strongly held philosophical view’ that my manager was a cunt, I’d be out of a job by teatime.
https://www.gov.uk/employment-tribunal-decisions/mrs-c-fairbanks-v-change-grow-live-2409700-slash-2023
There’s a link to the full judgment, it’s not long and it’s very obvious why this person didn’t win her case. The headline for this article is misleading.
She started a job at a charity without initially disclosing that she was a UKIP activist who was promoting Tommy Robinson posts online, IE advocating for a known racist who has on various occasions committed and incited hate crimes. During the hearing, and in the written submissions, she failed to explain what her philosophical beliefs actually were. She essentially said that she believed in UKIP, getting rid of the human rights act, and banning Halal butchers, without being able to give any underlying reasons or theories.