I dati record sulla migrazione mostrano che i conservatori stavano conducendo un “esperimento sui confini aperti” dopo la Brexit, dice Starmer

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2024/nov/28/figures-net-migration-expected-falling-conservatives-labour-uk-politics-latest-updates

di peakedtooearly

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  1. peakedtooearly on

    Was it a case of immigration being a great “bogeyman” they thought would help fortify their voter base, or simply that they were too incompetent to properly organise the processing and acceptance / rejection?

    Or maybe as simple as Tory hotel and property owners on the gravy train?

  2. Holditfam on

    this was the tories by the way who claimed to be anti immigration for 14 years straight and beating the net migration record year by year. And Labour still deported in 5 months what they haven’t done and struggled to do in 14 years. They are the most pro migration party in the west

  3. They allowed this to happen (quietly and while saying they are tough on Immigration) because the UK is in a very very bad place with its Population model.

    We can’t afford our Public Services because we havent been having enough children to support older generations.

    We have a top heavy Population. Too many Pensioners and people over 50 and not enough younger people. The problem with this is that we don’t have enough young working age people paying taxes to support the services/pensions/health/social care of older people.

    It became normal (1990’s-2000’s-2010’s) for people to only have 1-2 kids or 0. Couples having 1 kid doesn’t work when down the line, that 1 kids future taxes have to support 2 pensioners. Now that’s all coming home to roost.

    The only short term fix is bringing in people who are 18-50yo to fill jobs and pay tax.

  4. fludblud on

    Its abundantly clear that the tories were likely misinformed by post covid employment figures and either mistook the slower jobs recovery rate for a lack of workers necessitating immigration… or they DID know and saw an opportunity to undercut British workers by importing cheaper labour while getting convenient kickbacks in in the hospitality sector to house all the new arrivals.

    Regardless of intention, the damage is done and the nation now faces prolonged political, social and economic destabilisation that will either take decades to settle or will escalate to something truly horrifying.

  5. __Game__ on

    Why were so many of the general public so quick to gun anyone down who stated that they were not happy withe the then immigration problems?

    Is anyone there that used to think this was good that now understands frustrations?

    Only really asking as I can’t help but feel some of that sort of attitude (not just here, much much wider) in ways caused growth of bigger problems or “movements” or whatever they are called.

  6. Safe-Hair-7688 on

    Almost as if they made a problem, then tried to be the ones to have the solution to fix it….

  7. etterflebiliter on

    The Tories are vile. NB however that their policy, if you can call it that, went unchallenged for a very long time. The “discourse” has changed very much in the last year or so. Before that time, there was universal condemnation of even quietly-voiced anti-immigration sentiment. I imagine many people in this thread would have been amongst the racism-criers. Now, mass deportation is up for debate. And the left is using support for “open borders” as a rod to beat the Conservatives with! Extraordinary turnaround.

  8. Mellllvarr on

    To the white British children yet to be born in this country I am truly sorry, we failed you and you’ll never know what was taken from you.

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