Ho visto questo post su una pagina Instagram turca, il titolo si traduce in “Quante parole ha dato il turco a quante lingue?” (Tradotto letteralmente) A quanto pare l’armeno ha 5260 parole. Mi sembra esagerato, qualcuno ha una fonte affidabile?
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di cedrichadjian
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Literary Armenian has very little Turkish influence https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_loanwords_in_Armenian
Dialects are another matter but even then, is smth a Turkish loanword if it is in fact an Arabic/modern Persian word that was adopted in Armenian via a Turkic intermediary? I don’t know what the image you posted thinks on that. In any case, dialects will have more (though I doubt that many) and it will depend on the dialect.
dang, that’s a lot in serbian
Well, here’s a fun fact that also surprised me: one of the modern Turkish alphabet’s architects, language purification, and standardized vocabulary and grammar for modern Turkish was Armenian; Hagop Martayan.
Also, İstepan Gurdikyan and Kevork Simkeşyan played a pivotal role in the Turkish language.
And one last fun fact: it’s rumored that Hagop Martayan is the one who nicknamed Mustafa Kemal “Ataturk.”
Firstly, Western or Eastern?
5000 seems really exaggerated, and a large portion of these are probably Iranic and Semitic loan words in Turkish, which used Turkish as an intermediary in entering the Armenian vocabulary.
A closer look and you will find at least 60% of those are Arabic words
And a lot of Turkish words are actually Farsi loan words….
Wtf are they crazy. Farsi are the ones loaning the words not the other way around
As others have said, I do think a lot of the words they are referring to are really Persian in origin. Islam comes from Arabia elevating Arabic, but over the past thousand years, Turkic rulers in particular used Persian as a high, elite language in their empires.
That being said, there are some legit Turkish influences. Turkish was an important language in our region for hundreds of years, some of their words would have entered our vocabulary during this time.
A lot of these words have become so ingrained most people don’t realize they are Turkish
Half the language of Turkish come from Arabic and Persian, but Turks actually think that half is borrowed from them.
5k words… Ultranationalism in Turkey is world shattering.
Armenians played much more significant role in Turkey than we think.
Their source is a turkish one. They probably counted all of the Armenian loanwords in turkish as turkish loanwords in Armenian, esh, ashk, tel, orinak etc etc
Average Turk putting Arabic at the end