>”The authority turned down plans by Cairn Homes for 355 “built to rent” (BTR) apartments for Cross Avenue, Blackrock. The appeals board has refused planning permission for the so-called “built to rent” component of the Strategic Housing Development (SHD) scheme after concluding that the BTR units would result in an “over-proliferation” of BTR homes for the area.
The decision comes almost 2½ years after the so called “fast track” planning application comprising six blocks up to eight storeys in height was lodged in April 2022 as the board now moves to clear the backlog in outstanding SHD cases.
>In a second planning blow to Cairn the appeals board has also refused planning permission for 534 “build to rent” apartments across eight blocks with one block up to 10 storeys high on a site at Winterbrook and Barrington Tower, Brennanstown Road, Dublin 18. The SHD scheme – which was also lodged in April 2022 – was made up of 30 studios, 135 one-bed units, 318 two-bed units and 51 three-bed units.”
>”That proposal faced local opposition with 24 submissions lodged, including one from local TD Richard Boyd Barrett (People Before Profit-Solidarity) and party colleague Cllr Melisa Halpin, who stated the 10-storey proposal was located a mere 200m from an ancient 5,500 portal tomb”
>“the concept of build to rent for the apartments does not encourage a stable community as many renters are there on a short-term lease”.
If anyone unlucky enough not to come from a wealthy family here is still wondering whether or not they should emigrate, just wait for all the comments that are about to appear here agreeing with the last sentiment quoted.
Important_Farmer924 on
Pull up that fucking ladder, there’s always a tent in your ma’s garden.
CaliGurl209 on
Yay.
badger-biscuits on
Good stuff I objected
WickerMan111 on
Great news.
ThatGuy98_ on
Just ban 3rd party appeals. Most of europe can do without them. Given the tripe reasons included, so could we.
EmeraldScholar on
We virtually only build things in response to a need/demand, and this is exactly what happens in politics no one actively stopped global warming in the 90s despite awareness of the issue because it was too costly and people alive then would be less affected. We don’t build things in response to a potential future need those sorts of “expensive” projects are often ignored for being “too costly”. So why for Christ sake are we ignoring the extreme NEED for something as critical as housing for something like increased traffic, which is obviously a disturbance and costly but it’s not as bad as being homeless. It bears understanding that in the time it takes to build 900 units in that time more busing and transport infrastructure can be built. Also in wealthier areas people are more likely to use private cars because they have the money and weight the benefit of flexibility of a car over the cost of ownership and maintenance which to them is lesser relative to their means and by increasing their cost by say increasing traffic and as such increasing the time it takes to travel, more people will then choose the alternative public transport.
Also, to those who say there are plenty of other “better” sites, yea there are but there are also sites there and if we limit the amount of sites available to use, especially on such an arbitrary way to developers that they may not have the ability to assess we make it exponentially more difficult to build. Especially since the problem with land is whether there is a possibility of purchasing land which isn’t always the case as many seem to assume, people or more likely businesses that own the sites may well be sitting on it because they know in two years time it will be worth twice the value. We also all need to have some humility and recognise no development will be perfect there will always be drawbacks previous residents will face like increased traffic, an altered view of whatever it is they like, new people and a new group of people. We need to recognise this will bias us against developments we all need.
WarbossPepe on
Would it not be more effective in the near term to implement a vacancy tax?
The amount of derelict buildings in prime locations in every town across the country, you’d think that’d be the obvious choice instead of building swathes of cookie cutter estates in the middle of nowhere with no transport system or amenities nearby.
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>”The authority turned down plans by Cairn Homes for 355 “built to rent” (BTR) apartments for Cross Avenue, Blackrock. The appeals board has refused planning permission for the so-called “built to rent” component of the Strategic Housing Development (SHD) scheme after concluding that the BTR units would result in an “over-proliferation” of BTR homes for the area.
The decision comes almost 2½ years after the so called “fast track” planning application comprising six blocks up to eight storeys in height was lodged in April 2022 as the board now moves to clear the backlog in outstanding SHD cases.
>In a second planning blow to Cairn the appeals board has also refused planning permission for 534 “build to rent” apartments across eight blocks with one block up to 10 storeys high on a site at Winterbrook and Barrington Tower, Brennanstown Road, Dublin 18. The SHD scheme – which was also lodged in April 2022 – was made up of 30 studios, 135 one-bed units, 318 two-bed units and 51 three-bed units.”
>”That proposal faced local opposition with 24 submissions lodged, including one from local TD Richard Boyd Barrett (People Before Profit-Solidarity) and party colleague Cllr Melisa Halpin, who stated the 10-storey proposal was located a mere 200m from an ancient 5,500 portal tomb”
>“the concept of build to rent for the apartments does not encourage a stable community as many renters are there on a short-term lease”.
If anyone unlucky enough not to come from a wealthy family here is still wondering whether or not they should emigrate, just wait for all the comments that are about to appear here agreeing with the last sentiment quoted.
Pull up that fucking ladder, there’s always a tent in your ma’s garden.
Yay.
Good stuff I objected
Great news.
Just ban 3rd party appeals. Most of europe can do without them. Given the tripe reasons included, so could we.
We virtually only build things in response to a need/demand, and this is exactly what happens in politics no one actively stopped global warming in the 90s despite awareness of the issue because it was too costly and people alive then would be less affected. We don’t build things in response to a potential future need those sorts of “expensive” projects are often ignored for being “too costly”. So why for Christ sake are we ignoring the extreme NEED for something as critical as housing for something like increased traffic, which is obviously a disturbance and costly but it’s not as bad as being homeless. It bears understanding that in the time it takes to build 900 units in that time more busing and transport infrastructure can be built. Also in wealthier areas people are more likely to use private cars because they have the money and weight the benefit of flexibility of a car over the cost of ownership and maintenance which to them is lesser relative to their means and by increasing their cost by say increasing traffic and as such increasing the time it takes to travel, more people will then choose the alternative public transport.
Also, to those who say there are plenty of other “better” sites, yea there are but there are also sites there and if we limit the amount of sites available to use, especially on such an arbitrary way to developers that they may not have the ability to assess we make it exponentially more difficult to build. Especially since the problem with land is whether there is a possibility of purchasing land which isn’t always the case as many seem to assume, people or more likely businesses that own the sites may well be sitting on it because they know in two years time it will be worth twice the value. We also all need to have some humility and recognise no development will be perfect there will always be drawbacks previous residents will face like increased traffic, an altered view of whatever it is they like, new people and a new group of people. We need to recognise this will bias us against developments we all need.
Would it not be more effective in the near term to implement a vacancy tax?
The amount of derelict buildings in prime locations in every town across the country, you’d think that’d be the obvious choice instead of building swathes of cookie cutter estates in the middle of nowhere with no transport system or amenities nearby.