“Phoebe Plummer and Anna Holland, both 22, threw two tins of Heinz tomato soup at the painting at the National Gallery and then glued themselves to the wall in October 2022 in the group’s high-profile stunt. Plummer was jailed for two years and Holland for 20 months.”
dynylar on
They should consider going to India or China after they’re released
Interesting_Pack5958 on
As terrible as this is, we need to stop sending people to prison for crimes like this. Give them community service, relevant to the crime they committed. Cleaning graffiti off of walls and shop shutters at 5am in the morning for example.
SuperVlad05 on
Must admit I had no idea about the ‘paint stripping’ qualities of tomato soup until this!
socratic-meth on
Seems like some kind of community service sentence would be more appropriate, given we need all the prison cells for violent criminals. And they are hardly a danger to the public.
BRbeatdown on
Idiots, but not dangerous. They also aren’t going to change their ways after a prison sentence, it’s just more attention for these people… Seems like a waste of prison space to me.
Couldn’t just get them to clean up some area or something as community service?
Longjumping_Stand889 on
Those seem like pretty stiff sentences to me. The state showing it won’t allow this kind of protest anymore I think.
feist1 on
I hope I dont live long enough to see groups like JSO totally vindicated.
remind me 20 years
edit remind me 10 years
MeanCustardCreme on
When I first came across the woman on the left with he pink hair, I was curious to find out the background of the person, their thought process, and what drives them. After some digging, it was apparent that she is a “serial activist” with very little knowledge on what it is she is protesting about. Basically, somebody who turns up and gets involved in whichever movement is popular at the time.
If you look her up on YouTube you can find various interviews she has done, and they are awful. Usually what happens is that she can’t give any coherent answer on any topic, and the more she is questioned the more she crumbles. It eventually leads to yelling, or some emotional response, playing the victim. All the usual kind of things.
I think it says a lot about Just Stop Oil. Even if you back them, you need to consider that, if people like this are the best they’ve got to represent your organisation to the public, then it’s a massive problem. It would be considerably more impactful to have activists who conduct demonstrations, but can reply intelligently to media interviews and so on. At least have some kind of clear message.
Another point is that although activists like this play victim, they might be right, but for other reasons. What they are actually victims of are Just Stop Oil, who take on young people who don’t have a clue what they’re talking about, don’t understand the implications, and convince them into worthless scenarios which land them in jail.
OfficialGarwood on
It should be mentioned Phoebe Plummer has been arrested multiple times for these kinds of stunts, which would have been an aggravating factor in her sentencing.
Combat_Orca on
Gotta protect all those frames out there I guess. Justice system is turning into a joke.
BoursinQueef on
They’ve gone from being a drain on societies resources to being a drain on societies recourses, whilst protesting about draining societies resources
illegalbusiness on
So we’re letting dangerous criminals out of prison because of overcrowding, yet we’re throwing protesters in there. I would hardly say these people are dangerous to the public. An inconvenience, yes; a danger, no.
maveco on
So they broth got jail. Hopefully they’ll take stock of the actions and stew on that for a bit.
Given the sentences given to climate change protesters in the UK recently, it wouldn’t be surprising if the same was happening here.
Vanobers on
Meanwhile sex offenders get 6 month suspended sentences 👌
FreshLaundry23 on
Jennifer Lawrence and Gary Numan should have known better.
undertheskin_ on
Why are the sentencing for these protestors so harsh, vs say – sexual offenders who also commit non violent crimes but arguably cause way more harm, aka Huw Edward’s sentencing the other week?
Not saying JSO activists shouldn’t be punished if they break the law, but this seem rather extreme from a sentencing pov.
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“Phoebe Plummer and Anna Holland, both 22, threw two tins of Heinz tomato soup at the painting at the National Gallery and then glued themselves to the wall in October 2022 in the group’s high-profile stunt. Plummer was jailed for two years and Holland for 20 months.”
They should consider going to India or China after they’re released
As terrible as this is, we need to stop sending people to prison for crimes like this. Give them community service, relevant to the crime they committed. Cleaning graffiti off of walls and shop shutters at 5am in the morning for example.
Must admit I had no idea about the ‘paint stripping’ qualities of tomato soup until this!
Seems like some kind of community service sentence would be more appropriate, given we need all the prison cells for violent criminals. And they are hardly a danger to the public.
Idiots, but not dangerous. They also aren’t going to change their ways after a prison sentence, it’s just more attention for these people… Seems like a waste of prison space to me.
Couldn’t just get them to clean up some area or something as community service?
Those seem like pretty stiff sentences to me. The state showing it won’t allow this kind of protest anymore I think.
I hope I dont live long enough to see groups like JSO totally vindicated.
remind me 20 years
edit remind me 10 years
When I first came across the woman on the left with he pink hair, I was curious to find out the background of the person, their thought process, and what drives them. After some digging, it was apparent that she is a “serial activist” with very little knowledge on what it is she is protesting about. Basically, somebody who turns up and gets involved in whichever movement is popular at the time.
If you look her up on YouTube you can find various interviews she has done, and they are awful. Usually what happens is that she can’t give any coherent answer on any topic, and the more she is questioned the more she crumbles. It eventually leads to yelling, or some emotional response, playing the victim. All the usual kind of things.
I think it says a lot about Just Stop Oil. Even if you back them, you need to consider that, if people like this are the best they’ve got to represent your organisation to the public, then it’s a massive problem. It would be considerably more impactful to have activists who conduct demonstrations, but can reply intelligently to media interviews and so on. At least have some kind of clear message.
Another point is that although activists like this play victim, they might be right, but for other reasons. What they are actually victims of are Just Stop Oil, who take on young people who don’t have a clue what they’re talking about, don’t understand the implications, and convince them into worthless scenarios which land them in jail.
It should be mentioned Phoebe Plummer has been arrested multiple times for these kinds of stunts, which would have been an aggravating factor in her sentencing.
Gotta protect all those frames out there I guess. Justice system is turning into a joke.
They’ve gone from being a drain on societies resources to being a drain on societies recourses, whilst protesting about draining societies resources
So we’re letting dangerous criminals out of prison because of overcrowding, yet we’re throwing protesters in there. I would hardly say these people are dangerous to the public. An inconvenience, yes; a danger, no.
So they broth got jail. Hopefully they’ll take stock of the actions and stew on that for a bit.
Guardian reported this yesterday: [Revealed: how the fossil fuel industry helps spread anti-protest laws across the US
](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/26/anti-protest-laws-fossil-fuel-lobby)
Given the sentences given to climate change protesters in the UK recently, it wouldn’t be surprising if the same was happening here.
Meanwhile sex offenders get 6 month suspended sentences 👌
Jennifer Lawrence and Gary Numan should have known better.
Why are the sentencing for these protestors so harsh, vs say – sexual offenders who also commit non violent crimes but arguably cause way more harm, aka Huw Edward’s sentencing the other week?
Not saying JSO activists shouldn’t be punished if they break the law, but this seem rather extreme from a sentencing pov.