This is right-wing politics in a nutshell really. They’ll whine until the sun goes down that there are too many immigrants and foreigners in the UK and that we need to bring this down… but then they’ll also advocate to make it more difficult for people in the UK to have children themselves.
Just a completely incoherent ideology, based almost entirely around making things for difficult for everyone other than yourself. Though I assume this won’t get half as much attention as her pandering comments about the value of different cultures.
denyer-no1-fan on
>Badenoch replied: “We need to have more personal responsibility. There was a time when there wasn’t any maternity pay and people were having more babies.”
You mean back in the day when employers could discriminate against women, meaning women couldn’t get jobs and effectively be forced to have children and take care of them? If she wants to give up maternity pay in exchange for more oppression of women, then she should said that out loud.
trmetroidmaniac on
Paying working families less isn’t going to make them have more kids.
Paulsmooth on
Once upon a time I would have died for this country, now I can’t wait to leave and never look back.
Snaidheadair on
>But statutory maternity pay is a function of tax, tax comes from people who are working. We’re taking from one group of people and giving to another. This, in my view, is excessive.
So pensions next? Easily fits in with her ‘reasoning’.
PriorSafe6407 on
Lol it’s like she doesn’t understand that if the people she’s leaning into had any choice, she wouldn’t even have any rights at all.
Maternity pay, and parental support in this country is shamefully slim.
Necessary-Product361 on
Yes, what we really need is to get that birth rate down! We are being beaten by Korea and Japan, this isn’t acceptable, Britain must be number 1!!!!
chronicnerv on
The political landscape is now a clock face in which all roads lead in circles. Business and lobbies run the west and the only thing they care about is paying the cheapest possible rate for labour.
SpaceCrazyArtist on
Ah yes. Let’s “save money” by not investing in the future of the country and then complain that birth rates are too low
FeynmansWitt on
She’s awful and I don’t know why she’s considered a party frontrunner. I don’t mean awful in the sense of her politics – but intellectually incoherent.
It’s fine to reduce immigration, but demographically you can’t then have a policy that would disincentive people having more kids. That’s a 1 way ticket to having South Korea’s birth rate.
Tyler119 on
so she resigned from her job when pregnanther husband being an investment banker likely made that decision easy.
Not a fucking clue.
Mald1z1 on
They hate: Immigrants, Nhs workers, Civil servants, Mothers (both single and married, working or SAHM), Poor people, Young people, The Disabled, Govt workers.
Isn’t that like most of the population now? Why do they even want to be in power if they dislike everyone and everything about this country?
jtthom on
As if the Tories weren’t bad enough, along comes Badenoch 🙄
(I’m sorry)
KnightJarring on
The Conservatives spent 14 years governing the country but not for the benefit of the vast majority of the people who live in it. I’m consistently amazed just how many people never got this.
Miraclefish on
I guess they’ve run out of foreigners and disabled to blame and now it’s*checks notes* working mothers who are the problem
EvilInCider on
Excellent. Let’s punish women *even more* for having the children of men.
Maternity pay could still be better, as could maternity leave. There are other countries that have much more respect for the impact of childbirth and child rearing on women.
But (and I say this as a woman), what I really want is vastly increased paternity leave and proper maternity pay for men.
Paternity and maternity rights are rights that impact everyone, no matter what gender you are. Even if you don’t have, don’t want or can’t have children – knowing that you or your family and friends safely have the option is incredibly important for our stability.
stbmrsdavies on
I’m sorry but sod off Kemi Badenoch. Maternity pay is not excessive, especially when you only get statutory!! Try living off 600 quid a month and get back to me.
RandyDandyWarhol on
So money for millionaire pensioners is okay but money for new mothers is too much? It’s literally so blatant.
botchybotchybangbang on
So are nursery fees , so are food prices. Anything pro business and con everyday person for these frauds
refrainiac on
> She is married to Hamish Badenoch; they have two daughters and a son.
From Wikipedia, just in case anyone else wondered. I’m sure being the honourable lady that she is, she refused to take any excessive maternity pay when her children were born.
Codydoc4 on
This is what happens when your focus groups consist of, the over 60s, rich people who can afford to have a stay at home parent / au pair and far right libertarians. Thankfully if she wins the leadership election she’ll be so unpopular she’ll lose the next GE.
radiant_0wl on
I suspect she didn’t even know the figures when she answered.
Glum-Manner-9972 on
Deadass she’s trying to get herself bumped out of the race at this point…
iCowboy on
Strange this malaise doesn’t seem to affect productivity and GDP in the Nordic countries.
BobBobBobBobBobDave on
Way to win over those younger and female voters who abandoned the Tories.
Ok_Analyst41 on
Who is she appealing to here, maternity leave is popular surely as far as policies go?
Grayson81 on
The right wing agenda:
– Enormous financial bungs to those over 67, rising faster than inflation or wages even as the number of people over 67 rises sharply
– Make it harder for anyone to have children
– Oppose immigration from working age immigrants
You can’t do all of these things at once without things collapsing entirely. Who the fucking hell do they expect to work to produce goods and services for their elderly voter base in the future?
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This is right-wing politics in a nutshell really. They’ll whine until the sun goes down that there are too many immigrants and foreigners in the UK and that we need to bring this down… but then they’ll also advocate to make it more difficult for people in the UK to have children themselves.
Just a completely incoherent ideology, based almost entirely around making things for difficult for everyone other than yourself. Though I assume this won’t get half as much attention as her pandering comments about the value of different cultures.
>Badenoch replied: “We need to have more personal responsibility. There was a time when there wasn’t any maternity pay and people were having more babies.”
You mean back in the day when employers could discriminate against women, meaning women couldn’t get jobs and effectively be forced to have children and take care of them? If she wants to give up maternity pay in exchange for more oppression of women, then she should said that out loud.
Paying working families less isn’t going to make them have more kids.
Once upon a time I would have died for this country, now I can’t wait to leave and never look back.
>But statutory maternity pay is a function of tax, tax comes from people who are working. We’re taking from one group of people and giving to another. This, in my view, is excessive.
So pensions next? Easily fits in with her ‘reasoning’.
Lol it’s like she doesn’t understand that if the people she’s leaning into had any choice, she wouldn’t even have any rights at all.
Maternity pay, and parental support in this country is shamefully slim.
Yes, what we really need is to get that birth rate down! We are being beaten by Korea and Japan, this isn’t acceptable, Britain must be number 1!!!!
The political landscape is now a clock face in which all roads lead in circles. Business and lobbies run the west and the only thing they care about is paying the cheapest possible rate for labour.
Ah yes. Let’s “save money” by not investing in the future of the country and then complain that birth rates are too low
She’s awful and I don’t know why she’s considered a party frontrunner. I don’t mean awful in the sense of her politics – but intellectually incoherent.
It’s fine to reduce immigration, but demographically you can’t then have a policy that would disincentive people having more kids. That’s a 1 way ticket to having South Korea’s birth rate.
so she resigned from her job when pregnanther husband being an investment banker likely made that decision easy.
Not a fucking clue.
They hate: Immigrants, Nhs workers, Civil servants, Mothers (both single and married, working or SAHM), Poor people, Young people, The Disabled, Govt workers.
Isn’t that like most of the population now? Why do they even want to be in power if they dislike everyone and everything about this country?
As if the Tories weren’t bad enough, along comes Badenoch 🙄
(I’m sorry)
The Conservatives spent 14 years governing the country but not for the benefit of the vast majority of the people who live in it. I’m consistently amazed just how many people never got this.
I guess they’ve run out of foreigners and disabled to blame and now it’s*checks notes* working mothers who are the problem
Excellent. Let’s punish women *even more* for having the children of men.
Maternity pay could still be better, as could maternity leave. There are other countries that have much more respect for the impact of childbirth and child rearing on women.
But (and I say this as a woman), what I really want is vastly increased paternity leave and proper maternity pay for men.
Paternity and maternity rights are rights that impact everyone, no matter what gender you are. Even if you don’t have, don’t want or can’t have children – knowing that you or your family and friends safely have the option is incredibly important for our stability.
I’m sorry but sod off Kemi Badenoch. Maternity pay is not excessive, especially when you only get statutory!! Try living off 600 quid a month and get back to me.
So money for millionaire pensioners is okay but money for new mothers is too much? It’s literally so blatant.
So are nursery fees , so are food prices. Anything pro business and con everyday person for these frauds
> She is married to Hamish Badenoch; they have two daughters and a son.
From Wikipedia, just in case anyone else wondered. I’m sure being the honourable lady that she is, she refused to take any excessive maternity pay when her children were born.
This is what happens when your focus groups consist of, the over 60s, rich people who can afford to have a stay at home parent / au pair and far right libertarians. Thankfully if she wins the leadership election she’ll be so unpopular she’ll lose the next GE.
I suspect she didn’t even know the figures when she answered.
Deadass she’s trying to get herself bumped out of the race at this point…
Strange this malaise doesn’t seem to affect productivity and GDP in the Nordic countries.
Way to win over those younger and female voters who abandoned the Tories.
Who is she appealing to here, maternity leave is popular surely as far as policies go?
The right wing agenda:
– Enormous financial bungs to those over 67, rising faster than inflation or wages even as the number of people over 67 rises sharply
– Make it harder for anyone to have children
– Oppose immigration from working age immigrants
You can’t do all of these things at once without things collapsing entirely. Who the fucking hell do they expect to work to produce goods and services for their elderly voter base in the future?