Monitorare i conti bancari del Regno Unito per individuare eventuali frodi previdenziali sarebbe un duro colpo per la privacy

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/01/monitoring-uk-bank-accounts-for-benefits-would-be-huge-blow-to-privacy

di corbynista2029

23 Comments

  1. Another worry is once they start doing this monitoring to people on benefits, eventually they’ll roll it out to everyone and snoop on everyones accounts

  2. No-Wind6836 on

    I like it when we make it law the government CANNOT do something, looking at peoples bank accounts without a specific court order is one of those things that should be illegal.

  3. HauntedFurniture on

    > It emerged in the summer that DWP software had wrongly flagged over 200,000 people for investigation for suspected fraud and error.

    I’m sure it’ll be worth doing this to hundreds of thousands more to make that 3% saving

  4. No_Plate_3164 on

    I’m sure the guardian would be the first to advocate HMRC monitoring bank accounts to identity tax avoidance.

    If you are doing nothing criminal – why would you care if AI scanned over your account and civil servant then verified any anomalous income.

  5. JudasPreist1999 on

    labour, just as authoritarian and nanying as the tories

  6. mountain4455 on

    Surely everyone will just make a cash withdrawal the day it goes in, zero way to track it then

  7. 99thLuftballon on

    And a waste of money, since benefits fraud is a tiny problem.

    This is yet another case of “tackle the problem of the right-wing media, not the fake problems they create”.

  8. Confident-City6551 on

    If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear !

  9. weirdhoney216 on

    I’ve never even claimed benefits but I would never support this.

  10. Worth it. Definitely monitor a condition of getting benefits.

  11. yourlocallidl on

    This is why I’m against the digitisation of money, now that pretty much everywhere takes card it rolls out the red carpet for the government to start snooping on your purchase history.

  12. Electronic-Trip8775 on

    HMRC has access already but benefits fraud isn’t a priority.
    …people not paying the right tax is.

  13. Lopsided_Rush3935 on

    The UK media, government and public need to stop calling social welfare ‘Benefits’. It’s a horrible and shaming term.

    It presents the insinuation that people receiving social/state welfare are somehow receiving a *benefit* that other people aren’t, when it’s actually designed/intended to put vulnerable people on an even playing field. The name basically invites the ‘scrounger-bashing’ mentality.

  14. Ooh_aah_wozza on

    I think this is a good idea. I’ve always quite fancied living in an authoritarian dystopia. Why stop at benefits, they could check bank accounts to see if anyone buying dog food is also buying bags to pick up their dog’s poo. They could put in automatic stops on your card if you tried to buy more than the weekly recommended limit for alcohol. They could automatically deduct money from people’s accounts when they had too much and keep it safe for them in a special Government account. So many possibilities, we just need a government with a bit of imagination and creativity.

  15. This will catch less people than they think it will and will only encourage benefit fraudsters to take cash on their ‘other’ income so it never touches a bank account. Presumably most of them already do, except with this they have more reason to get better at hiding it.

  16. Bored_Breader on

    Shouldn’t we take all the energy we’re putting into stopping someone claiming a few hundred pounds more a month and put it into developing poor areas

    Christ why does everyone immediately jump to fuck the poor

  17. Any_Hyena_5257 on

    We can rant on Reddit, or any social media platform, it doesn’t matter. Britons will just queue to take it in the ass from the establishment, making a small group of people rich and keeping them rich since 1066.

  18. Downtown_Category163 on

    Wage theft is a much much bigger target than benefit screw-ups if they want to actually fix a problem and not just beat on some poors to give UK legacy media a chubby

  19. actuarynewsmod on

    Starmer is more like some snooping East German leader every day

  20. PositiveLibrary7032 on

    How about the rich for funnelling cash off shore too?

  21. BunLandlords on

    Why dont they spend this energy going after tax loopholes and closing avenues that allow the wealthy to pay minimal tax instead of invading peoples privacy for a fraction of a fraction of the population

  22. chaosandturmoil on

    what the government actually want in my opinion is to make sure you’re not able to have any savings on the benefits they pay you.

    if you’re able to save up to pay for your yearly MOT, tax, and increasing insurance, they think theyre paying you too much.

    this is linked to the proposal that they want to pay people in “vouchers, one-off grants, a receipt-based scheme or choosing support aids from a catalogue” so they know exactly where the money is going.

    oh and if you’re trying to save up to the £6 grand capital limit for your funeral which can cost upwards of £6 grand then you’re fucked because that also includes your current bill payments running costs account.

  23. Ironfields on

    The idea that any government has the god-given right to monitor citizens like this is disgusting. It’s an extreme overreach and should be opposed wherever it rears its head.

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