Premetto che vengo dal Regno Unito e ho circa 3-4 anni di esperienza di guida in tutta Europa, principalmente in Polonia.
Negli ultimi mesi ho avuto alcuni incidenti sfiorati su questa specifica rotatoria (andando in più direzioni, non solo in quella del video) che non avevo mai avuto prima.
Ci sono 2 corsie concentriche sulla rotatoria, nessuna linea continua, 2 corsie su 2 corsie fuori senza frecce che indicano la corsia prima di entrare.
Vedrai nel video sono nella corsia interna con l’intenzione di andare dritto (2 corsie in uscita), indico presto, non posso cambiare corsia alla rotonda perché l’Audi nera che mi ha raggiunto è all’esterno sentiero.
L’Audi finisce per svoltare a sinistra alla rotonda, dopo essersi immessa nella corsia esterna accanto a me, senza nemmeno indicare. Puoi vedere che sono titubante nel guardare questa macchina prima di uscire, ho osservato da vicino l’autista fuori dal finestrino e lei ha visto chiaramente la mia macchina e ha continuato comunque sul mio cammino. Puoi sentire dall’audio che non sono molto contento di questo.
Ad ogni modo, in tutti i miei anni di guida non mi unirei mai a una rotatoria sulla corsia esterna se la mia intenzione fosse quella di fare il giro, a meno che non sia specificamente indicato come dove ci sono 2 corsie e l’unica altra uscita a 2 corsie è intorno alla rotatoria.
Nel Regno Unito la manovra effettuata dall’Audi sarebbe altamente pericolosa e finirebbe quasi sempre in un incidente e la colpa sarebbe al 100% loro.
Dopo una rapida ricerca in questo subreddit sto leggendo commenti che suggeriscono che avrei dovuto cedere il passo a questa macchina in Polonia!? È corretto?
https://v.redd.it/v57f4n9ne6ud1
di cooket89
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Fucking hate this kind of roundabouts, but as far as I remember you are correct. If you turned on your right blinker, the car on your right should wait for you to turn
EDIT For people saying I’m wrong, you are right in this case. Almost my whole knowledge of those kind of roundabouts was based from Radom, where the inner lane gets of first on many roundabouts
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWKcIUFTifY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWKcIUFTifY)
also rondo Księdza Jerzego Popiełuszki in Radom
You’re supposed to change the line to right before exiting the r-bout. Yeah, I know this rule makes no sense, but it’s the rule.
thats why turbo-roundabouts exist. btw both of the drivers were wrong
Yes. On a roundabout like that you only exit from the outside lane. So you should change lanes (and give way in the process) a little bit before the exit that you take, something like that last car that you gave way to did. Technically you can go all the way around in the outside lane and be in the right because you don’t change lanes. Also, you only signal when you exit the roundabout or change lanes, so normally there’s no need to use left indicator in a roundabout.
There are also so called turbine roundabouts, which have lanes leading all the way to possible exits from that particular lane, usually with solid line so you can’t change lane while in the roundabout. On those you need to take the proper lane before entering. But it’s kinda hard to know in advance which roundabout’s gonna be which if you don’t know the place.
It is correct. You are changing your line, Audi is not so you have to yield.
If you can’t safely exit then do the round and try again. That was a crap manoeuvre BTW.
Roundabout in Poland is treated like a circular street. To exit roundabout from the inner lane, you have to yield to vehicles on the outer lane, because they are going “straight” on their lane. As others told you, you can change the lane from inner to outer on the roundabout, which may ease leaving the roundabout.
However in Radom, and other cities probably too, there are roundabouts where lines guide you so that driver on the inner lane has priority in leaving the roundabout. Like here: [https://www.google.com/maps/@51.3989378,21.1403495,93m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTAwOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.3989378,21.1403495,93m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTAwOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D)
dude, try harder
You’re going into the roundabout via the wrong lane.
Exiting at 12 o’clock you should be in the right lane going into it, as that’s the one for the first two exits.
Left lane for the 9 o’clock exit.
But I get your logic though, back at home, in most cases you’re in the proper lane, plus the fact that roundabouts tend to be a bit of a free for all here.
It really should be made clearer going into the rondo which lane you should be in.
I’d be contacting the local council about it.
In Czechia, the Audii should yield to you.
If you are changing lanes you need to give right of way for the car that is already on this lane. If you would hit that audi it would be your fault. The honking is absolutely unnecessary here as you are the one who made the mistake and clearly doesn’t know the regulations.
I don’t know the differences in road rules between Poland and UK, but following our rules, this black Audi is doing fine. They can drive like this. You are changing the lane, you have to yield priority to all cars that are already there. So probably the driver must think few bad words about you – trying to smash him and then honking. And driving out the roundabout from the inner lane is common reason of car incidents. You were lucky you didn’t hit them, or police for sure will issue you a ticket. And of course there are 2 exit lanes, but you can use second exit without changing the lane earlier only if the car on the outer lane is also leaving roundabout. The exception is turbine roundabout (I’m not sure about English name, google for “rondo turbinowe” and see pictures), where every lane has assigned direction and such situation is not possible.
That is the reason, why roundabouts should have turbine layout instead of concentric one. In that case (concetric layout – two “parallel” lanes) it is legal to exit a roundabout from the inner lane, but you have to give the right of way to those, who drive on the outer lane.
I hate this desing, turbine roundabouts all the way
You can check this video, it’s in polish but visuals should be enough. Its showing exactly your situation at 1:28:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU3fUA1bsIk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU3fUA1bsIk)
At the start of the video you can sea dark blue car basically doing what you should have done
Why don’t you just use right lane?
Why would you expect to exit from the inside lane? Even in the UK you’d go to the outside before exiting, and to take the second exit you’d be starting in the outside lane in the first place (using the inside for the 3rd and 4th exits). All you did was act unsafely.
Yeah, you both showed how not to drive on roundabout. You don’t know how to exit roundabout and who has the right of way and guy in a black car doesn’t know that when you’re turning left you pick the left lane. If only you two swapped lanes you’d leave the roundabout without any problem..