*The belief that Israel’s actions amount to apartheid, ethnic cleansing and genocide are “worthy of respect in a democratic society”, an employment tribunal has concluded in a landmark decision.*
*In February the tribunal ruled that Prof David Miller was unfairly discriminated against when he was dismissed by the University of Bristol over allegations of making antisemitic remarks, in a decision the Union of Jewish Students said set a dangerous precedent.*
NuPNua on
Yeah, this is going to have some ugly knock on effects I reckon. Look at how people have abused” gender critical” views being legitimised in this way.
Dry_Sandwich_860 on
These issues need to be discussed. Even on this thread, where there is only one comment so far and it only repeats what’s in the article, there’s a “participation notice.” Most news sites don’t even allow comments on anything related.
The point is, if a university professor can’t discuss Israel’s actions without being accused of bigotry, then who can?
The Brexit referendum result and the recent political rise of the far right in Europe are about people expressing frustration (and often ignorance) after years of being silenced and refused the opportunity to participate in discussion. Tough problems can’t be swept under the rug because when they are, people arrive at harmful/untrue views without having an opportunity to learn any better and they make themselves heard eventually, often with negative consequences.
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test_test_1_2_3 on
Seems reasonable, provided that similar judgements will also protect people holding the counter views. Although such a case is unlikely to happen in academia since it is almost exclusively staffed by people far to the left now.
That said, I’d be wanting my money back from SFE if I was getting lectured by this dullard.
robcap on
I think this is completely reasonable.
People walk on eggshells around this issue, but “I do not like Israeli state policy” is ***not*** the same thing as saying “I don’t think Jewish people deserve basic human respect”.
There are non-Zionist Jews in the UK, or so I’m told. And even in Israel we should be able to separate the actions of their govt from the concept of ‘the Jewish people’.
inspired_corn on
The irony of all this nonsense is that saying “criticism of Israel is antisemitic” *IS* antisemitic…
You’re saying that the actions of Israel somehow represent all Jewish people, which is incredibly offensive.
Zionism is not Judaism, it’s not a protected characteristic. There’s many Jewish people who aren’t Zionists, and many Zionists who aren’t Jewish.
Possible-Pin-8280 on
I find it weird when people have a strong belief that an entire country should no longer exist but ok.
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*The belief that Israel’s actions amount to apartheid, ethnic cleansing and genocide are “worthy of respect in a democratic society”, an employment tribunal has concluded in a landmark decision.*
*In February the tribunal ruled that Prof David Miller was unfairly discriminated against when he was dismissed by the University of Bristol over allegations of making antisemitic remarks, in a decision the Union of Jewish Students said set a dangerous precedent.*
Yeah, this is going to have some ugly knock on effects I reckon. Look at how people have abused” gender critical” views being legitimised in this way.
These issues need to be discussed. Even on this thread, where there is only one comment so far and it only repeats what’s in the article, there’s a “participation notice.” Most news sites don’t even allow comments on anything related.
The point is, if a university professor can’t discuss Israel’s actions without being accused of bigotry, then who can?
The Brexit referendum result and the recent political rise of the far right in Europe are about people expressing frustration (and often ignorance) after years of being silenced and refused the opportunity to participate in discussion. Tough problems can’t be swept under the rug because when they are, people arrive at harmful/untrue views without having an opportunity to learn any better and they make themselves heard eventually, often with negative consequences.
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Seems reasonable, provided that similar judgements will also protect people holding the counter views. Although such a case is unlikely to happen in academia since it is almost exclusively staffed by people far to the left now.
That said, I’d be wanting my money back from SFE if I was getting lectured by this dullard.
I think this is completely reasonable.
People walk on eggshells around this issue, but “I do not like Israeli state policy” is ***not*** the same thing as saying “I don’t think Jewish people deserve basic human respect”.
There are non-Zionist Jews in the UK, or so I’m told. And even in Israel we should be able to separate the actions of their govt from the concept of ‘the Jewish people’.
The irony of all this nonsense is that saying “criticism of Israel is antisemitic” *IS* antisemitic…
You’re saying that the actions of Israel somehow represent all Jewish people, which is incredibly offensive.
Zionism is not Judaism, it’s not a protected characteristic. There’s many Jewish people who aren’t Zionists, and many Zionists who aren’t Jewish.
I find it weird when people have a strong belief that an entire country should no longer exist but ok.