Europe is increasing ammo production capacities quite fast. The target of 1 million 115 mm shells has been met and that’s already something.
The problem comes with the embargo. The US has equipment and materials that Russia doesn’t have and that are key for production of the most advanced military weapons (including russian weapons). If embargo stays, russian capacity to renew equipment will be unsufficient, which is what has happened during this year. In this scenario, in two years exhaustion of Russia will be very visible. Yet the question is: will Ukraine stand so long considering all the cost it takes?
Nurnurum on
There is no reality in which Europe stays in this conflict, while the US backs out. The best Ukraine can hope now is freezing the conflict.
Special-Marzipan1110 on
Does it mean if US cuts funding then no more innocent will die because of the war? I mean does “somedy loses” mean the war is over?
TungstenPaladin on
I wouldn’t count on Europe stepping up. European countries didn’t want to send tanks until the US does. European countries also didn’t want to send long-range missiles until the US does despite the fact that the US component in those missiles, the Terrain Navigation System, can be removed and there are already versions without the TRN. Our politicians talk big (you know which ones) but they don’t back them with any real meaningful actions.
notmyfirstrodeo2 on
Seem this is Putins all in gamble. I’m sure russia invested a lot money in these elections. And any upcoming in EU also.
The “war machine” aint really winning, so they got to try everything.
Abdelsauron on
They can’t win with US funding.
EternalMayhem01 on
Europe can step up.
stars_mcdazzler on
Well good thing the US elected a Republican as their next president, a party known for their foreign spending and international aid.
omegaphallic on
Ukraine already lost, ots just throwing away lives while rushing nuclear war, enough us enough.
PaulDecember on
Ukraine will lose the war with or without funding. The only difference is how many more lives you want to lose and how much more money you want to waste. Nobody is doing Ukraine a favor by prolonging the inevitable.
BobB104 on
Duh. It’s pretty much a done deal. Goodbye Ukraine.
Ok_Photo_865 on
They won’t if the Americans can get authorization to use American tech in European built weapons into the hands of the Ukrainians and the rest of the free (-Trump controlled America) world get off their asses and start helping. Russia is already setting their sights on other places they feel Russia should control. Eh, Finland; Poland; Sweden…. To mention a few 🤷♂️
PaulDecember on
The latest Ukrainian polling shows a slight majority already want a negotiated prace. Thousands of fighting-aged men have fled to Poland and Germany. This war is nearly over, and Russia has won.
MrsMacio on
Why isn’t he thinking about his own soldiers and civilians whose lives would be saved if the war is “frozen”?
Is keeping up the war going worth all the Ukrainian blood???
u_touch_my_tra_la_la on
The Russians have Big gun barrels only until Middle of Next year.
The UA just need to hold on until Next Christmas and it’s checkmate, no more offensive ops for the Russians.
PotentialSalty730 on
What a shocker!
HallInternational434 on
Europe should let trump know that it will be his fault and he will be the biggest and weakest loser America ever produced and will be remembered in history.
Remind him that Europe will write his name into history and he will be remembered as a loser.
Convey the message directly to the American people that the end of their prosperity starts with a failure in Ukraine. If Ukraine falls there goes the USA lead order and its currency eventually will follow. An isolationist USA in this globalised world is a path to self destruction
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No you won’t, Europe’s got your back.
Europe is increasing ammo production capacities quite fast. The target of 1 million 115 mm shells has been met and that’s already something.
The problem comes with the embargo. The US has equipment and materials that Russia doesn’t have and that are key for production of the most advanced military weapons (including russian weapons). If embargo stays, russian capacity to renew equipment will be unsufficient, which is what has happened during this year. In this scenario, in two years exhaustion of Russia will be very visible. Yet the question is: will Ukraine stand so long considering all the cost it takes?
There is no reality in which Europe stays in this conflict, while the US backs out. The best Ukraine can hope now is freezing the conflict.
Does it mean if US cuts funding then no more innocent will die because of the war? I mean does “somedy loses” mean the war is over?
I wouldn’t count on Europe stepping up. European countries didn’t want to send tanks until the US does. European countries also didn’t want to send long-range missiles until the US does despite the fact that the US component in those missiles, the Terrain Navigation System, can be removed and there are already versions without the TRN. Our politicians talk big (you know which ones) but they don’t back them with any real meaningful actions.
Seem this is Putins all in gamble. I’m sure russia invested a lot money in these elections. And any upcoming in EU also.
The “war machine” aint really winning, so they got to try everything.
They can’t win with US funding.
Europe can step up.
Well good thing the US elected a Republican as their next president, a party known for their foreign spending and international aid.
Ukraine already lost, ots just throwing away lives while rushing nuclear war, enough us enough.
Ukraine will lose the war with or without funding. The only difference is how many more lives you want to lose and how much more money you want to waste. Nobody is doing Ukraine a favor by prolonging the inevitable.
Duh. It’s pretty much a done deal. Goodbye Ukraine.
They won’t if the Americans can get authorization to use American tech in European built weapons into the hands of the Ukrainians and the rest of the free (-Trump controlled America) world get off their asses and start helping. Russia is already setting their sights on other places they feel Russia should control. Eh, Finland; Poland; Sweden…. To mention a few 🤷♂️
The latest Ukrainian polling shows a slight majority already want a negotiated prace. Thousands of fighting-aged men have fled to Poland and Germany. This war is nearly over, and Russia has won.
Why isn’t he thinking about his own soldiers and civilians whose lives would be saved if the war is “frozen”?
Is keeping up the war going worth all the Ukrainian blood???
The Russians have Big gun barrels only until Middle of Next year.
The UA just need to hold on until Next Christmas and it’s checkmate, no more offensive ops for the Russians.
What a shocker!
Europe should let trump know that it will be his fault and he will be the biggest and weakest loser America ever produced and will be remembered in history.
Remind him that Europe will write his name into history and he will be remembered as a loser.
Convey the message directly to the American people that the end of their prosperity starts with a failure in Ukraine. If Ukraine falls there goes the USA lead order and its currency eventually will follow. An isolationist USA in this globalised world is a path to self destruction