L’ambasciata ucraina è “disturbata” dalla richiesta del manifesto dello Sinn Féin di fermare la “fornitura illimitata di armi” in Ucraina
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/ukrainian-embassy-disturbed-over-sinn-fein-manifesto-plea-to-stop-unlimited-supply-of-weapons-into-ukraine/a1499876467.html
di Crazycow261
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SF don’t believe in the right to a nation to defend itself from an imperial foreign power unless its member can use a bombing campaign to rob banks for their own enrichment and cover up rape and child abuse with kangaroo courts.
Ireland shouldn’t be sending any weapons to Ukraine (not that we are in the first place) so who cares
So let me get this straight
A left wing party whose core issue is Irish Reunification and hence closing the book on our long sorry colonial history
In their manifesto in 2024 put a policy which helps the last remaining empire expand its colonies in Europe in the third year of the war the Russians have started
All while North Korea, Iran continue to pour troops and missiles to kill Europeans and drive refugees into Europe and Ireland
Bunch of Hypocrites
I’m not a SF man and I’m 100 percent in the Ukrainian camp but I can see the logic here. Something has to change, it’s just escalating into a Cold War with Ukraine taking the damage. If this keeps going nuclear war will be on the table
The rest of the world could halt Russia in its tracks by other means if it really wanted to. What’s happening now just isn’t working, Russia are slowly gaining ground every day
In what sense is the policy even actionable? Pretty sure none of the arms supplying countries are taking our advice. That being said it’s hard to move against arming Ukraine without supporting the regions coloniser
SF warship go fnck yourself
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Peace in our time
If SF didn’t say this and said “actually give them more guns” people will just still call them terrorists and say shit like “typical SF/IRA always pro violence”. They can’t win with some people.
This whole thing is confusing me.
I’ve read the manifesto, and before any mention of ceasing the supply of arms, they say that they want a peaceful end to the war, and peace in Ukraine?
It’s only after that, when they go on to say that the supply of arms from all sides should end. Isn’t that just the natural conclusion of a war?
I’m not defending the policy, but it seems like a relatively standard one. End the war. End the supply of weapons.
The fact that Sinn Féin, to the best of my knowledge, have never called for the end of the supply of weapons to Ukraine in *order* to end the war, makes me think that the policy is either badly worded, or has been twisted, to an extent. I’d like a clarification from the party, but David Cullinane denied the claim last night, that they wanted to end the supply of arms to Ukraine prior to the end of the war.
Either way, it doesn’t hold enough weight for me to reconsider my vote for Sinn Féin.
This is the sort of naive and dim-witted Student Union-esque policies that SF are prone to blurting out on issues. They just cannot help themselves.
Is their plan to stop the weapons then ask Putin really nicely to leave Ukraine alone? Or are they going to tell the Ukrainian people that they just need to accept the partition of their country?
Shame really but I should have known. It’s not just in Ireland. The left/far left seem oblivious to Russian imperialism.
Ukraine needs our help. This is a core belief for me. What about you? Do you support this. Would you vote for this?
Wait. Can’t Ukrainians vote? Aren’t there like 100k of them here?
Good, about time we stopped focusing on another US proxy war.
What fkn weapons do they have any say over? I thought they handed them all over after the Good Friday Agreement 🙄
I have no idea where SF comes from.
SF spent my entire life “owning” Ireland’s historical struggle to break away from English domination. Spent my whole childhood saying that terrorism/guerilla warfare to achieve a UI was right and proper to end partition.
Here we have Ukraine where Russia has **repeatedly** recognized Ukraine’s 1991 borders. The UN recognizes those borders, Ireland recognizes those borders – and SF is suggesting that maybe Ukraine should accept **partition**, that the West should prod Ukraine into that.
**Partition** of all things.
If there’s one thing you identify with SF its that partition is not cool.
Yet here they are, blowing smoke up Putin’s hole.
Someone draw me the Shinner map of the way things work lads because I just don’t get it.
Holy fuck , SF are trying to get me not to vote for them, they literally needed to keep their mouth shut and I would have voted for them. we don’t have the same isolational group as in US, Ukraine is europe this is the hole in our boat that we need to plug
So Sinn Fein who are and anti imperialist party are in support of Russian imperialism ?
I was 100% giving my first vote to Sinn Fein and have been trying to convince my friends to do the same but I can’t support this bullshit.
I’d rather have a house crisis then see ukraine subjected.
We had weapons???
This is just complete and utter bullshit – read the room SF, Ireland doesn’t even supply weapons to Ukraine (we should but we don’t really have any). If you want to be in government (and I am considering voting for them, as FF/FG are never going to change anything) then you need grown up policies and not meaningless slogans
annnnd sinn fein just lost my vote.
Sinn Fein went from middle of my voting card to rock bottom, along with the far right Russia loving lunatics
What the manifesto doesn’t say is that the unlimited supply of weapons to Ukraine is coming through the sky from Russia and is rendered unusable when it explodes!
Sending more weapons isn’t going to win this war, it will just end in more dead Ukrainians. It is time for negotiations, Russia just isn’t going to stop. Unpopular opinion I know but Germany is already in talks again with Russia over trade.
Chasing the anti-Ukraine vote is certainly a strange tactic.
This “nobody gives up an empire because they are nice”
[https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sBH2eHEAOpA](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sBH2eHEAOpA)
I’ve been thinking so hard about my preferences going in to this election and I was going to give David Cullinane a preference after thinking so hard about it.
Not any more. Fucking idiots.
“Ukraine, Russia, the United States and the EU should play a role in bringing this conflict to an end by putting the interest of the people of the region above other geopolitical interests. All sides must cease the current unlimited supply of weapons into Ukraine which has cost hundreds of thousands of lives,”
It’s a call for de-escalation, calling on all sides to work together for an end to the war. It’s not saying the US and EU should stop the supply to Ukraine and let Russia carry on doing what they’re doing
SF trying to lose this election lol
Aleksandr Dugin is the neo-fascist advisor who shaped Putin’s expansionist policies and pushed the Ukraine invasion. He has said — verbatim — that there should be a Russian Empire that extends “from Dublin to Vladivostok.” There have been Russian submarines in the fucking Irish Sea. Two days ago was the last report they entered our waters. Literally right now this is happening.
Anyone who thinks the Ukraine war isn’t an existential threat to Europe is delusional. Russia is a specific, active threat to Ireland.
Don’t play around with this stuff. I will not give the steam off my piss to any party with Russian sympathies.
And just like that. They’re getting no vote at all from me. Just like the far right dipshits.
I don’t think anyone in these comments read the article because they state very clearly over and over again that they don’t support Russia and they want to support a full Russian withdrawal from the region